Minor male entitlements

Buffy, I suspect we'll never be BFFs but try not to misrepresent then extrapolate on anything/everything I post?
'coming from a place of brute misogyny'? Sounds like you need to join Puffins in the site shop queue tbh.

"Buggies are used as convenient placed for uninterested mothers to park babies while they compare trendy accessories. "

Yeah, nothing to see here.

So that means that an actual XX female, with ovaries and a uterus and everything, was willing to fight her way through the thicket of misogyny, mansplaining and whataboutery to get close enough to "him" (still not 100% convinced) to be impregnated.

Insert Sideshow Bob's "stepping in a rake" noise here.

EBearHug, agree but in my limited experience, I have better visibility in smaller cars and I'm not that small, as women go.

I drove my father's old Landrover, but that was a difficult drive for many reasons (it failed its next MOT.) I don't think it could be compared with the sort of thing people do the school run in.

Yes. What I find disturbing about posters here is that they are very concerned about privilege and entitlement yet are entirely unconcerned about following the rules of a community. I. E no personal attacks. Believing you are too important to follow the rules made for the little people is the definition of privilege.

Misogyny, by the way, is woman hating, not pointing out example of inequality.

He's been around a while and has a full back story, Blue, so I'm gojng for yes.

I know DH had much better visibility than I do from our people mover, for example.

Is larrygrylls an actual man? Because if so, the most disturbing thing about this thread is his allegation that he has procreated.

I don;t know ABland - never driven one either. Could go some way though.

Odd isn't it? One would ordinarily hope and expect something else. Obv one very rare example of entitled stuff (but quite important to me), so I'll shut up about it.

Given threads we've had about public design... I've never driven a 4x4, are they easier or harder to drive if you are shorter than the average man?

Pan, I trust your observations - after all, you're playing the "not getting squashed" odds!

Puffins, misogyny fest? Grips are available in the site shop.

There was a really interesting article by a woman who spent a weekend sitting with her legs splayed on public transport.

www.bustle.com/articles/34279-why-do-guys-spread-their-legs-when-sitting-on-the-subway-my-weekend-of-sitting-like

ABland - sure, and I'm aware of that re men driving more trucks and taxis, and one takes suitable precautions for all of them. The 4X4/women thing is starkly noticeable. (eg. last night riding home on a downhill one drove beside me about 2 feet from me as we did 25mph'ish - absolutely no need to as the lights at the bottom were queued). I wish it wasn't the case (and of course any vehicle can kill or seriously maim you) but that combo makes them v uneasy to be around.

Taking over entire coffee shops with buggies, blocking passageways and sipping one coffee over 2 hours (never seen a man do this and I used to quite regularly take two under 3 out).

Or, properly construed, when women take up public space it is in their role as carers and nurturers? I have seen men do this, but far far fewer of them because men are, proportionally, far far fewer amongst parents who are full time carers to their children. That is not "female privilege" but quite the reverse: socially, economically and practically there is a huge amount of pressure on the woman in an opposite sex relationship to do the childcare.

Cheaper car insurance (until very recently).

Really? A historical policy no longer in force which was based on statistical analysis of risk? There's a straw over there to grasp ---->

Embarrassing men by imagining every look is a 'leer' or 'creeps them out' while shamelessly ogling men that they fancy even if they are 20 years younger.

Women "imagine" men are leering, but men are correct to think they're being ogled? That's shamelessly misogynist and totally ignores women's experiences - it's not fun being leered at. The power imbalance means that when a man stares at a woman, she doesn't know if he's going to attack her or not. When a woman stares at a man, he can be almost certain she's not. Yes, women are socially compelled to treat men as Schrodinger's Rapist. That ain't female privilege, chum.

Ostracising men with babies at 'parent's' meet ups.

I've been fortunate perhaps in that I've not seen this, but then the men with babies at the parents' groups I've been to (the ones that welcome the preggy as well as those with babies) have been part of the group. What I have seen is new people not fitting into the clique immediately. And again, why is it that men doing the caring is not unremarkable?

Shamelessly calling male privilege whilst demanding privilege for themselves such as female only times and spaces at gyms where both sexes pay equal fees.

I would far prefer to see a society which does not judge women on their bodies than be given a single hour and a half out of ninety five available hours in which I can exercise worry-free.

In the meantime, though, without a women’s hour some women just won’t go to the gym at all. So here’s a deal: my local gym offers ninety five hours a week at the Fitness Centre. Men can have a 1.6% discount, reflecting the hours in which they can’t use it. However, the women who will only use the centre during women-only times get a 98.4% discount to reflect an equal situation (currently, they pay the same as anybody else.) Fair?

Friend = depend.

It happens to me on trains, amethyst. It does somewhat friend how generous the seats are (Eurostar, no problem; peak commuter trains, squeeze in)

This thread is fascinating.

It started off as a minor gripes thing where women were sharing things they found it mildly annoying that men do fairly often. Then Greengrow comes along and says some frankly ridiculous things mixed in with a couple of good points. Then it becomes a total misogyny fest courtesy of 2 men who really have no clue at all, but have to make sure they whine about their sad lots in life.

Women! Have no opinions! Don't dare name any problem! Accept your yolk as your lot, men have it so much worse than you,

The legs thing doesn't happen on trains, only on the tube. I think it must be more to do with a display of dominance aimed at the people sitting opposite, and the person sitting next to the man is just collateral damage. Or something. It winds me up SO much and I've never said anything. Am going to next time. I think.

Pan, are there more men in HGVs than women in 4x4s to be careful of, go you think?

(Not disputing that many drivers need to take more care for cyclists)

Which buggy did your newborn have, larry, when you were taking them out 5-7 days a week?