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Minor male entitlements

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kentishgirl · 18/09/2014 09:41

It's not just the big things, it's the little things that are in some way more irritating to me.

Just got out of the dentist. It's a small practise and I guess the receptionist is off sick as the reception desk still had shutters down, so they were a little bit late opening up. One woman was sitting in waiting room when I arrived. A man came in a little after me.

The dentist came out and opened up the desk.

Guess who quickly jumped up and got there to be dealt with first?

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PuffinsAreFicticious · 20/09/2014 17:59

But it's always good to see the misogyny keeps oozing in. Proves the point of the thread.

PuffinsAreFicticious · 20/09/2014 17:57

Both boys with breasts and social x rays are fucking horrible ways to describe people. As is the assumption that women are only capable if reading one type of literature. Slightly lessens the impact of the put down really. Not surprising though, given who it came from.

PansOtherPeople · 20/09/2014 17:53

You appear Buffy really keen to throw a blanket over what had actually been posted. I've never indicated a need/desire to reduce women's reported experiences of male entitlement - I wouldn't do it, not here nor in RL. But it's a seam you wish to consistently try to mine.
And I don;t mind advising you or Puffins to get a grip when the slight obs I had made were characterised as 'brute misogyny'. Only in a v small bubble of experience would that be sustained.
So yes, dragging those women who have suffered rape, and RS, into what passes as your 'argument' ( and grind about me) was remarkably cheap by you. But..unfortunately.not surprising.

BuffyBotRebooted · 20/09/2014 17:52

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GarlicSeptimus · 20/09/2014 17:50

But I'm rarely surprised by Larry's opinions Grin

larrygrylls · 20/09/2014 17:50

ABland and Buffy,

They are quotes, actually. Never mind...sense of humour (or knowledge of modern literature outside the feminist cannon) should not have been expected.

GarlicSeptimus · 20/09/2014 17:49

I'm surprised by Pan's attitude on this thread. I'm mainly off FWR these days, and appear to have missed his masculinist (?) development. Pan used to get it quite often - I mostly enjoyed his questions & contributions. He's been acting pretty much like a patronising twat today, though :(

BuffyBotRebooted · 20/09/2014 17:47

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ABlandAndDeadlyCourtesy · 20/09/2014 17:45

"And it is not as if they are spending a fortune either as the 'social x rays' or 'boys with breasts' don't actually want to eat, or very little indeed...."

Christ, Larry. That's truly horrible. I won't be responding to any more of your posts.

BuffyBotRebooted · 20/09/2014 17:39

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larrygrylls · 20/09/2014 17:39

And, also, in late response to a question above, we were talked into buying a Bugaboo when we knew nothing about the realities of babies and children. We ended up using a cheap second hand McLaren far more in the end, as it took up less room and was less fiddly.

larrygrylls · 20/09/2014 17:37

'In fact larry's pram thing is also about women and children not taking up any more than their allotted space (whatever that may be - less than a man obviously) no matter if they need it.'

The pram is used to transport children too young to walk. When you arrive at your destination, assuming said baby is awake, you take it out of the buggy and sit he/she on your knee or beside you, depending on age. The buggy then gets parked out of the way, unselfishly.

And, yes, it is mainly women I see condescending to waiters as they try to squeeze between buggy equivalent of SUVs where little Petronella is not actually being got out and stimulated but parked with a dummy in her mouth. And it is not as if they are spending a fortune either as the 'social x rays' or 'boys with breasts' don't actually want to eat, or very little indeed....(I do realise that that is a little bit of a caricature, by the way..).

My point is not actually that women act in a more entitled way than women, which I don't actually believe, it is that both men and women can act in unpleasant and entitled ways in the UK today, and certainly in the demographic in which I live. If one did a survey, I suspect sex would not even register as a correlation.

BuffyBotRebooted · 20/09/2014 17:35

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PansOtherPeople · 20/09/2014 17:27

You don't have to search, do you? I am ocassionally here.
Lets leave it here, shall we? Nothing gained, and share the

BuffyBotRebooted · 20/09/2014 17:23

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PansOtherPeople · 20/09/2014 17:22

Buffy - all of those things you list are accurate. You were being 'cheap' re rape victims and RS, you were being 'boring' ( in 'having a go' - it's like clockwork), and yes, it reads like a little diatribe.

PansOtherPeople · 20/09/2014 17:17

Buffy - you've taken time out to expand on what little you know of me. I don;t wish to 'derail' here (though I haven't 'digged' at you, whatever that means.) and fwiw my 'voice' here is no 'louder' than yours, and always much worse received. So I don't take well to your hectoring and attempts at 'bullying'. I know lots about male entitlement, being a male. So from the other side.
And yes it does appear as stalkerish stuff, tbh. I post, you follow up with some wildly inaccurate comment. Seems to be your pattern. So best wishes with that.

BuffyBotRebooted · 20/09/2014 17:14

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bauhausfan · 20/09/2014 17:02

I used to use my pram as a weapon so no man dared not give way to me in a narrow space.

BuffyBotRebooted · 20/09/2014 17:01

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PansOtherPeople · 20/09/2014 16:50

Just catching up..Buffy, something I missed previously.. please don't label me as a " nice right on" chap? It's like me labeling you as a 'well-mannered lady' ifswim?Smile

and following the 'gregarious' use - ease up! It's beginning to feel like being stalked by a Catholic priest.

BuffyBotRebooted · 20/09/2014 16:47

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ABlandAndDeadlyCourtesy · 20/09/2014 16:47

At 5mph, it sounds like a class 3 scooter that can be on the road.

PansOtherPeople · 20/09/2014 16:45

yes, it's a 'protected' cycle only lane, passing in front of Man City's Etihad stadium. With a nice wide pavement running along side. Didn;t mind being told to f-off really.

ABlandAndDeadlyCourtesy · 20/09/2014 16:39

Was it a cycle only lane?

Rules are here, pop em in your saddlebag:

www.gov.uk/mobility-scooters-and-powered-wheelchairs-rules/overview