Just got on a train...

CnP mania isn't it!

refusal to engage
refusal to engage in anything other than topics on the CnP instruction booklet

Total bungle upfront with the whole talking about fucking on public transport though.

MRA FAIL.
Nul points.

"Sadly buw, you messed up there, as you haven't called anyone an utter cockwomble. "

I didn't say I did. I'm not a feminist.

"The example punters come up with was killed as a result of DV. The fact that they see DV as the same as being prostituted is quite telling."

Petite Jasmine actually reported her abusive ex to the police. All they did to "help" her was take her children off her when they found out she was a sexworker.

I'm sure buw will, tinkly.

lol buffy

nice turn of phrase

Let me tell you about my daughter's mate.
Studying her A levels to do law at Uni. Working part time in an old peoples' home.
Doesn't get on with Mum. Befriended by nice photographer, does some modelling (she's a good looking girl).
Beaten up and thrown out by Mum who has mental health issues.
She's 18 so gets her own place, a few more hours work.
Does some pole dancing, it's a bit of fun. (Mum used to do it).
Does some dodgy photos. A boy she knows finds out. She gets a lot of stick.
Doesn't do so well in her A levels. Decides to resit.
Struggling to find her rent. Gets a job in a lap dancing club, in the next town, where she won't see anyone she knows. More money than wiping arses.
Still really struggling for her rent. Finds out a lot of the girls at the club do extras......

True story. Nobody can tell me this poor girl has not been exploited.

Sadly buw, you messed up there, as you haven't called anyone an utter cockwomble.

There is no debate. Punters are sleazy. The ones on this train were super sleazy.

We're not debating love. This isn't a debating society. It's a chat board for people with an interest in feminism. It says so at the top and everything.

And if we were a debating society, you lost as soon as you said it was AOK for groups of men to talk about their use of prostitutes in an explicit and offensive manner on public transport.

*Advocating

"all the problems women who sell sex face are the fault of feminists."

Advocateing raids on brothels IMO does in fact cause problems and complications for those the raids are supposedly trying to protect/rescue.

Fuck! Sorry Buffy!

Also, the Nordic model kills women.

Except it doesn't. Not a single woman has died in Sweden due to being killed while working as a prostitute. The example punters come up with was killed as a result of DV. The fact that they see DV as the same as being prostituted is quite telling.

From The Feminist Guide To Online Debating:

"If losing an argument, call them utter cockwombles."

Yes like I said it is a problem that they are too fearful, I do not know the answer unfortunately. How do you reach someone who has been brainwashed, traumatised and abused especially when they can so easily 'disappear'?
I guess a good starting point would be to try and curtail new victims? For example, if people would stop using them for sex. You know, supply and demand...
However, I am aware how difficult people find it to accept when a behaviour they are indulging in is so despicable, so they will blindsight themselves or muddle their morals to suit. So I guess asking men to refrain from using other human beings as chattel really is a fruitless endeavour. Gosh, what a pickle.

Here are some more question - why do you not care that you come across as a sleazy idiot on a public forum? What are you getting out of positing these comments? What are you hoping to achieve? Do you have nothing more productive to do with your time than tell women they are wrong?

this thread is a classic example of if you are losing the argument, widen it. because basically no one's going to agree that boasting about prostitution on public transport is normal

It's dull isn't it.

"Oh look here are headlines for the last X years about organised gangs sexually exploiting girls in the UK for years and years".

"Nope don't care look at my cut n paste here I am THE MAN and I am right if I say it never happens then it never does BEHOLD more CnP".

So WTF are all these men going to prison for, hmm?

Why do you think that men talk about sleazy sex in public, buw?

Stop asking us silly questions and put your mind to the issue at hand!

Grimbletart, it's because they are utter cockwombles.

Calling someone a cunt is (to them) much worse than paying to have sex on a woman who doesn't want them to.

"Not being interrogated by police would be a good start, don't you think?"

Feminsts who made claims of rampant trafficking were the ones who wanted those raids and interrogations. Not the sexworkers, not the pimps, not the punters, not everyday Jimmy. Feminists.

So if they really are trafficked what do you propose will help them?

Not being interrogated by police would be a good start, don't you think?

Dear god, these men. We have to do all their thinking for them.

Maybe you might understand better if I add more swear words?

So if they really are fucking trafficked what do you fucking propose will fucking help them?