Just got on a train...

"But the majority of people don't agree with feminists do they? Men, women, teenage girls... Do you feel that you're winning? You shouldn't. "

Lol

They really do.
Not so many of the men like you, maybe.
But most people agree with the main tenets of feminism, what with them being, you know, common sense.

You also haven't said anything whatsoever about the OP, the whole point of the actual thread.

But have just weighed in to post about how silly immature feminists are all wrong about prostitution.

And you say we are "not bothering to discuss the issue properly". You haven't even mentioned it.

Oh wow! You're right Glovender. We are wrong. We are just imagining it all.

Because yeah we are going to take advice from someone who thinks they men can't tell when they're raping a woman.

So all sex is rape Bellecurve?

No, of course that's not what you said, but it's as honest an interpretation of your post as you've made of mine. Honestly, this is the standard. It's just... twaddle.

Goodnight all xxx

"men are socialised to feel revulsion at gay sex". I think you will find women feel revulsion at being raped.

also, the "natural orifice" - he really believes this is what women are for, doesn't he?

Again, I find it interesting. Despite saying that I thought that the majority of purchased sex was rape and am clearly against prostituition, it was only Buffy that acknowledged that I'd said this. The rest claim I'm justifying 'men's right to purchase women' and even call me a rapey raper. But, apparently it's me that's the bigoted one that's not bothering to discuss the issue properly. Also, disagreeing with people on the internet makes me a misogynist. It's not you narrow collection of extremists that I disagree with, no. In fact I hate all women. It's risible.

So, that's why I have such a poor opinion of the majority of posters on this forum... Sure, I'm just one dissenting voice and you don't - and shouldn't -care what I think. But the majority of people don't agree with feminists do they? Men, women, teenage girls... Do you feel that you're winning? You shouldn't. Perhaps you should reflect on that a bit more and not just say 'patriarchy innit'.

I haven't taken it out of context Glovender. That's what you said. I didn't realise you were just talking about these mythical deceived punters cuckholded by the sirens on the street. You believe that is possible. You believe that men cannot tell when they are raping someone. So ergo you may not be able to tell when you are raping someone.

Wow he's a really fucking nasty piece of work isn't he

Incredible how all the men who show up on threads in the feminism section to defend their "right" to buy women to fuck, show themselves up to be absolute bastards, isn't it.

But I mean, it's not surprising is it. Puffins - true. They wind people up though. We're not saints Plus as Buffy says, lurkers.

I mean they show themselves up at every turn don't they, can't help it. His response to my comments about men selling sex to men being no different from women selling sex to men goes to beautifully prove the point I was making. They find the thought utterly abhorrent and react with disgust at the idea. But for women doing the same thing - that's totally different and utterly fine. Hypocritical arseholes to a man.

The stuff about "This is just the extended meanderings of adolescent girls thinking the world wasn't fair and"...

He has no idea who any of us are, what our experiences are.

It's interesting that when a woman empathises with someone in the situation of working in prostitution, and expresses concern, she is told that is childish and irrelevant. When he is asked to empathise with someone in that situation, in exactly the same way, he simply says NO I WILL NOT DO THAT. And of course his opinion is right. He, the person who refuses to imagine themselves in that situation, gets to state how women who are actually in that position feel? I don't think so.

Nasty piece of work, isn't he. Been on the boards for a while as well I think.

Fair point!

I have particularly enjoyed watching Buffy's rebuttals, as always.

I rather like to see the posters here deconstruct his pseudo-superior ramblings, puffins.

We all know what he is. He's just told us.

I totally get the lurkers thing Buffy. And with the obvious trolls with their randomly generated names I think it's admirable. But Glovender is just taking the piss out of you all, and it's a shame to see you all waste your intellects on someone who does that.

Out of interest. Why are you all engaging with a man who is obviously just taking the piss out of you all? You can hear his laughter at directing the discussion to his own selfish ends. He no more wants to discuss this in a reasonable fashion than he wants to be a prostitute.

I shall grace you with my presence again very briefly

Why don't you fuck off instead, rapey raper?

It took him a long time to type with his big hairy hands, rufus.

That was a short half time

Half time, so I shall grace you with my presence again very briefly.

No 7DS, it's not wrong at all. Your interpretation is the one that suits your argument, but doesn't it work. Many men are heavily socialised to feel revulsion about gay sex. Added to which there isn't a natural orifice. This leads to quite a different kettle of fish all together. Imagine you're an actor and you're paid to do a sex scene. No difference whatsoever? Rubbish.

Which leads onto the other point and how ridiculous your attempts to take things out of context are scallops; I did not say you can't tell if someone's being raped full stop. I said that I agreed that a lot of prostitution is rape because of the nature of the sex trade. Some isn't, but there are plenty of good actors in the sex trade and many prostitutes will smile sweetly and practically beg you into the engagement. I take it no one here is a man that has happened to walk down the wrong street on occasion? But that's the problem isn't it? Your ideology is a collection of facts and theories put together after you've decided what the conclusion should be and not objective research from which a final understanding is drawn. This is just the extended meanderings of adolescent girls thinking the world wasn't fair and

Oh look. Football started again.

I couldn't get past that first sentence of his post earlier. Managed to read the rest now. So he tells us what he is and that he wouldn't actually be prepared supply sex himself (at least I think that's what he said - I didn't quite follow the second sentence as it didn't seem obvious to me from the rest of his posts because he mainly avoided the question when asked. So I've deduced that by process of evasion). Then we are being unreasonable about taking that at face value.

Okaaaay.

If you can't tell when you are raping someone Glovender, don't have penetrative sex. Women will be grateful.

"I think the value male punters place on women generally as sexually autonomous beings is irrelevant to the argument..." Why on earth do you think that when it is key to the demand side of demand-supply chain? The fact that they don't care about women's autonomy and women are basically interchangeable vessels for them.

Again when men tell you what they are like, believe them.

Oh and if you are 'in' for trying to eliminate demand why not penalise the demand side of the chain especially as prostitution is a demand-led market, not supply led?

I've already said that it's nigh on impossible to tell whether you're raping someone or not.

Only if your scumbaggery is getting in your eyes.

that's us in our place, isn't it?