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Thinking out loud about nail varnish...

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StevesBollockAnalogy · 10/09/2014 13:07

Okay so I suppose this is more for my benefit than anyone else's, but I'd be interested to hear what other people have to say and what your opinions are!

So when I heard about the nail varnish that detects the date rape drugs I was angry, but couldn't express why. I have since thought about it quite a lot and this is the conclusion that I've come to.

Even if we only consider rape cases in which the victim is in a night club, approached by a strange man etc. (which are by far not the norm and in the vast majority of rape cases special nail varnish or anything else would be no help at all) and a date rape drug is used, it doesn't prevent rape. That rapist does not go into a bar looking for a specific woman, he will rape whoever he decides to. If she wore a different dress, if she stayed at home, if she was fatter or thinner, if she had a different colour hair, if she detected date rape drugs in her drink, someone would still have been raped. He wouldn't think "oh well, she was the only one I was prepared to attack and rape, now she's detected my drugs I guess I'll just go home then".The nail varnish does not prevent rape, and to say it does is dangerous and misleading.

So say, a woman detects a date rape drug in her drink. She gets the hell out of there. The rapist would not give up and go home at this point, he'd find someone else. Someone who doesn't have that nail varnish. By not being "too drunk", or wearing "slutty" clothing, or wearing the special nail varnish, or going home earlier, you don't prevent rape. You sway the odds so it is less likely he will pick you, he is more likely to pick a faceless other girl. Who drank more or wore a shorter skirt or didn't buy the nail varnish and didn't 'protect' herself like you did. As long as you protect yourself, he will most likely choose someone else who didn't protect herself like you. Some who deserved it more than you. And we all know that leads straight to victim blaming and a whole host of disgusting stuff.

Does that explain it clearly why I'm angry? Am I right- or am I wrong? Other opinions and thoughts are welcome, this is just the conclusion I came to.

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Beachcomber · 10/09/2014 18:04

There is something hideously ironic about the use of a trapping of femininity (nail varnish) being utilized in rape culture. There's something seriously fucked up about that. Lipstick used to be used to signify that women were prostitutes and nail varnish is in the same neck of the woods (that of othering beauty practices).

I totally agree with you OP. I hate stuff that puts the onus on women to prevent rape. It is so twisted.

CaptChaos · 10/09/2014 15:23

MehsMum, it would stop the man raping any of the women in that group, possibly, but it won't stop him moving on to a different group or lone woman. If a man decides he's going to rape someone, I doubt some nail polish and a pair of anti rape knickers will ultimately stop him. The kind of rapist who drugs his victims is likely to be a serial offender, the only thing that will stop him is jail, which is highly unlikely to happen to him.

OP, nail on head.

TessOfTheFurbyvilles · 10/09/2014 15:22

Completely agree with everything that has been said.

It's another idea which, while I'm sure there are good intentions behind, places the emphasis on women taking steps to prevent being raped.

StevesBollockAnalogy · 10/09/2014 15:10

The other thing that bothers me is the fact that if everyone wore this ridiculous nail varnish, people would still get raped, if everyone tested every drink, someone would still get raped.

I'm glad you think I'm right and not over simplifying it!

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scandichick · 10/09/2014 14:38

To me, the biggest issue with it is that no one should have to wear a special nail varnish to avoid rape.

The baseline assumption ought to be that you have the right not to be raped, whatever you're doing and whatever you're wearing.

Placing the responsibility for detecting date-rape drugs on women (rather than, say, nightclub staff) smacks of victim-blaming to me.

PenguinsIsSleepDeprived · 10/09/2014 14:33

Cross post there Bullets

MehsMum · 10/09/2014 14:33

On the other hand, if she's with friends and thus doesn't feel immediately in danger, she'd have a chance to spread the word, to others and to the staff. Might scare the rapist away, though it probably won't put him off trying again.

PenguinsIsSleepDeprived · 10/09/2014 14:32

Also, it wouldn't bloody work! I mean, you dip your finger in your drink before every, single sip do you? And what if he uses a different drug. Or just adds triple shots to your drink?

And if you were wearing the varnish but forgot to test every sip, were you 'asking for it'?

JustTheRightBullets · 10/09/2014 14:31

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LurcioAgain · 10/09/2014 14:12

Seems like you've absolutely nailed what's wrong with it to me! I pretty much agree with all you've said.

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