Why are feminists so threatened by the MRA movement?

sorry yes, i just repeated you annie

"What matters is that arguments are based on proper academic rigour, and are not influenced by politics." Yeah coz there's no bias in academia . But way to go on dismissing women's lived experiences.

Oh, and Christina Hoff Somers?

Not a feminist. Not in any way a feminist.

She is an MRA handmaiden who gets wheeled out to try and lend their tantrums a level of credibility with women.

Just because someone says they are something, doesn't mean they are. To quote the Bible, by their fruits shall ye know them, and her fruit tastes of MRA stooge.

Are you trying to suggest that all MRAs are like that, which is the reason why they are so terrible?

To me, Roger Elliot personified the logical conclusion of MRA thinking, yes.

As I said up thread and as PetulaGordino has just re-iterated, it's not that feminists feel threatened by MRAs. We are actually, literally threatened by them.

Oh blimey! My post was to Momagain1!

Parents dont have rights. I think that this basic concept passes MRAs by.

It also enrages them that the welfare of a lesser being to them ie a child comes before what they want.

I don't think any assumptions are made by courts that benefit women. Women put in the domestic labour before divorce. That is recognised by courts. That's not trampling on anyone's rights and nor is it of benefit to women. Women (and therefore the children they care for) end up poorer on average after divorce. These perceived benefits are actually just allowing the status quo to be maintained.

Do I think all MRAs are going to go on killing sprees?

No.

Do I know that MRAs condone violence against women?

Yes.

Please point out all the 'atrocities' feminists have committed with the express purpose o furthering the feminist cause. This was Elliot Roger's avowed aim. That and his being angry that women he wanted to fuck refused him, because that's not allows either.

Tell me, what do you think of the phrase FriendZoning?

NAMRAALT

Way too funny .

NAMRAALT

baaaahahahahahahaha

so, in answer to the OP's question, which i hope is still considered relevant to the thread, though the OP's decisions as to what is relevant and what isn't seems rather arbitrary

why are feminists so threatened by the MRA "movement"?

because they threaten feminists, so far no evidence has been produced to the contrary

Because the MRA groups have been largely taken over by men who resent women having equal rights, and in some cases are certain that women have taken over and are running the place.

Yes, there are men who are more realistic, and realize, for example, that family law courts making assumptions about either parent based on gender, are trampling on parental rights, and more importantly, the children's rights. But for every one of them, I bet there are two misogynistic misfits who beleive the whole sytems is run by women whose long term goal is to reduce men to sperm donors.

How any group which cites inability for men to have an abortion as the best example of men's marginalized, disenfranchised status, can think that using Elliot Rodgers as any kind of example of anything is a problem is beyond me. It's like the twat calling the kettle a twat.

But, dochaknow, Elliot Rogers doesn't count because some of his victims were actual people, erm, men.

Not only was Elliot Rogers a misogynistic spree killer, he was one who had swallowed the MRA message whole. He is the shape of MRAs to come. Scary shit which needs highlighting.

Where has the OP gone? Has our plaything disappeared? Waahhhhhh, our rights are being infringed!!!!!!!!!!!

There's also a forum on reddit that helpfully points out the specific examples of misogyny that you somehow can't see. www.reddit.com/r/againstmensrights/ (pretty sure you know about it already though, and like most mras have decided to close your eyes to reality.)

You try and tell feminists they're wrong and men are more oppressed than them, and they'll just start citing some very recent, very disturbing, very violent instance of misogynistic serial killing. Stupid wimmin.

I don't think mentioning Eliot Rodger is 'name dropping', and neither do I think it's a particularly risible or weak thing to do. Stories like this really matter, in terms of what they tell us about perceptions of women - they're relevant to the discussion.

And more importantly, they tell us about the OP's perceptions as well. "Birds of a feather flock together" as they say.

To paraphrase Freud.... what does a MRA want? it's very clear what they don't like - feminists. It's not so clear why, except a nebulous sense of feminists as liars and fools. What I'm not getting is why that is so - what effect are their lies and their idiocy having? What, actually, is the problem?

LineRunner...... Or one which discusses the number of men in abusive homosexual relationships. Or one which discusses anything and uses reliable data to back it up when called out.

I have been trying to play devil's advocate and have been Googling men's rights campaigns in the hope of finding one that actually seeks to improve the lives of men without trampling all over women in the process.

I couldn't find one. In fact, apart from F4J, the only active campaign I could find was one about women making false rape accusations.

Remind me again, Voix, why feminists should get on board with MRAs?

I don't think mentioning Eliot Rodger is 'name dropping', and neither do I think it's a particularly risible or weak thing to do. Stories like this really matter, in terms of what they tell us about perceptions of women - they're relevant to the discussion.

So, the MRA would prefer feminists to discuss matter without refering to that case, for whatever reason, and you agree with that. Which of the other things I quoted do you actually have no problem with?