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Why are feminists so threatened by the MRA movement?

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LaVoixDeLaRaison · 09/09/2014 18:47

When I was at university, the Gender Equality society (of which I was a member) chose to rename itself the Feminist society, arguing that the only way equality could be achieved was by focusing on women's issues. This led some other students to set up an MRA group, which was met with some resistance from the feminists. On this very board I see commenters angrily referring to MRAs as if they are all members of an evil homogeneous group.

Isn't it possible that men and women both suffer oppression from society in different ways? That the levels of this oppression are not necessarily equal, but are still important if we are to achieve equality? I often see feminists agreeing with certain 'male issues' (e.g. media stereotypes, elevated male suicide rate), but suggesting that feminism has other priorities, and if they want to do something about these issues then they should make their own groups. Why do they get criticized when they do exactly that? Better still, wouldn't feminism be better off if it didn't alienate so many men (and women, focused on a wider range of issues, and stopped pitting the sexes against one another?

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AnnieLobeseder · 10/09/2014 16:34

Kate, I would agree that deleting the thread because of the reddit link is a but late to be useful. Surely if you just don't want people to follow the link for fear of trolly influx you can just change the URL of the thread?

PenguinsIsSleepDeprived · 10/09/2014 16:33

Ok, I'm going to post my link now.

PetulaGordino · 10/09/2014 16:31

he;s over there crowing about having proved his point

(ignorign the fact that many here are calling for it to remain, so it's not the regular feminists who want this deleted and the OP banned)

BuffyBotRebooted · 10/09/2014 16:31

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PenguinsIsSleepDeprived · 10/09/2014 16:30

Yes, can't you just lock this one? It's not like they won't wander around anyway when the link doesn't work.

Incidentally, have you ever thought about some sort of delay between registering for MN and being able to post on FWR? I know there are reasons for not doing it for the whole site (desperate mum wants bfing advice, doesn't want to wait 48 hours, etc, etc), but could it be limited to certain boards? I doubt that they have a long attention span.

BuffyBotRebooted · 10/09/2014 16:28

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Hakluyt · 10/09/2014 16:28

I reckon we can cope...........

LineRunner · 10/09/2014 16:27

Can you just lock it for a bit?

LineRunner · 10/09/2014 16:27

Bugger.

PetulaGordino · 10/09/2014 16:26

tbh i think that's shutting the door after the horse has bolted kate

the locking might work though? so the posts remain but the thread will drop out of activity

Squidstirfry · 10/09/2014 16:26

You could leave it for 'reading' but not allow anymore posts?

KateSMumsnet · 10/09/2014 16:25

@TravelinColour

Remove? But so much here that is useful surely?

We do understand where you're coming from - but since this thread has been linked to on the MRA Reddit forum, it's likely that it will attract a lot of attention from MRA trolls, which is the last thing we want on FWR (we'd imagine you'd find it pretty annoying too), so we think it's best if this thread is removed.

PenguinsIsSleepDeprived · 10/09/2014 16:25

Hang on, this was no longer accepting messages?

LineRunner · 10/09/2014 16:25

I agree with leaving the thread now. The OP got his arse handed to him and the arguments on here from MNers are really valuable. I haven't absorbed them all yet.

Hakluyt · 10/09/2014 16:24

So the thread hasn't been zapped after all?

HaroldsBishop · 10/09/2014 16:23

MRA = men's right activist. But it doesn't really mean that anymore as it's been subverted by people who want to troll feminists.

Fletchermoss · 10/09/2014 16:12

I haven't RTFT but what is MRA?

AnnieLobeseder · 10/09/2014 16:12

And MNHQ, I agree with those saying please don't delete this thread. Or ban the OP. It would just be proving his point.

AnnieLobeseder · 10/09/2014 16:11

I'm not from the UK, Hakluyt, so it's not unreasonable that I wouldn't have heard about it. But yes, women do get horrifically erased from history.

Hakluyt · 10/09/2014 16:11

Oh, please don't delete the thread! It doesn't matter who the OP is- the discussion is so valuable and useful!

TravelinColour · 10/09/2014 16:10

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Hakluyt · 10/09/2014 16:09

Annie- did you really not know about Greenham Common?

It is absolutely amazing how women are just erased from history............

BuffyBotRebooted · 10/09/2014 16:09

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AnnieLobeseder · 10/09/2014 16:08

Oooh, which of you is garlicMN? Very brave.....

KateSMumsnet · 10/09/2014 16:08

Hi all,

Thanks for all your reports. We're going to remove this thread shortly as we have some doubts about the OP.

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