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Why are feminists so threatened by the MRA movement?

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LaVoixDeLaRaison · 09/09/2014 18:47

When I was at university, the Gender Equality society (of which I was a member) chose to rename itself the Feminist society, arguing that the only way equality could be achieved was by focusing on women's issues. This led some other students to set up an MRA group, which was met with some resistance from the feminists. On this very board I see commenters angrily referring to MRAs as if they are all members of an evil homogeneous group.

Isn't it possible that men and women both suffer oppression from society in different ways? That the levels of this oppression are not necessarily equal, but are still important if we are to achieve equality? I often see feminists agreeing with certain 'male issues' (e.g. media stereotypes, elevated male suicide rate), but suggesting that feminism has other priorities, and if they want to do something about these issues then they should make their own groups. Why do they get criticized when they do exactly that? Better still, wouldn't feminism be better off if it didn't alienate so many men (and women, focused on a wider range of issues, and stopped pitting the sexes against one another?

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SevenZarkSeven · 10/09/2014 22:11
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SevenZarkSeven · 10/09/2014 22:11

No.

WinifredTheLostDenver · 10/09/2014 22:07

Can I still post?

ThinkAboutItTomorrow · 10/09/2014 19:11

Sorry missed most of the thread but given men are in charge of well, everything, given the woeful representation of women in positions of power, all the things MRAs are complaining about are within male control. So, the MRAs are just arguing with men who have lots of rights about men having some more rights. Really don't get it.

PetulaGordino · 10/09/2014 17:39

well i didn't report so i don't know, but it's a fairly obvious MRA troll/goader, and people may well have thought it worth keeping an eye

Hakluyt · 10/09/2014 17:32

I don't understand why anyone reported, to be honest........

PetulaGordino · 10/09/2014 17:31

i would imagine that the people reporting were just asking for MNHQ to keep an eye, especially after the reddit link

PetulaGordino · 10/09/2014 17:31

interestingly, nowhere has MNHQ said that the people reporting were asking for it to be deleted. Kate just said "thanks for all your reports". the decision to delete was MNHQ's, for the completely understandable reason that they don't really want to increase their workload by fending off MRAs for the next three days. but i'm glad they've agreed to reconsider, despite that

TheOriginalSteamingNit · 10/09/2014 17:28

I'm glad this wasn't deleted - would have been perfect fodder for them to fuel their notions about hysterical women banning and deleting stuff they don't like, although I know that wasn't the intention.

Also, it's been entertaining! And I can't wait for the opportunity in real life to refer to someone as a Mortifying Dickhead.

(And, if I hear Cameron talking about being 'heartbroken' again before the news is out, I suspect I'll get the opportunity!)

ballsballsballs · 10/09/2014 17:20

Poor old sad Mortifying Dickhead and his oh so reasonable arguments.

I take my hat off to all who replied.

CaptChaos · 10/09/2014 17:19

Thanks Rowan.

ballsballsballs · 10/09/2014 17:18

Poor old sad Mortifying Dickhead and his oh so reasonable arguments.

I take my hat off to all who replied.

PetulaGordino · 10/09/2014 16:46

thanks rowan Flowers

LineRunner · 10/09/2014 16:45

Change the URL?

AnnieLobeseder · 10/09/2014 16:45

Thank you for looking into alternatives, Rowan. I don't understand the magic of 'Tinterwe, lLike I suggested up thread, wouldn't changing the URL a bit break the link?

PetulaGordino · 10/09/2014 16:45

yes the wide-eyed innocence and and "i made no personal attacks" stuff is very disingenuous

at least some of them on there are honest and upfront about what they want - a return to C19th structures because it benefits them more than gender equality does

RowanMumsnet · 10/09/2014 16:43

Hello

Tbh the issue is that a direct link like this - from the Reddit MRA sub-forum directly to FWR, so that all anyone there has to do is click on a link - does honestly make it spectacularly easy for them to come over here and cause loads of work for us havoc.

(Was trying to think of a way to illustrate this and I've come up with that bit in Harry Potter when all the Death Eaters turn up at the wedding reception.)

If they click on a link and all they get is a deleted thread message, yes they could then click around, work out how to sign up and start posting - but it would take that much more determination, and human nature being what it is most of 'em probably wouldn't bother.

Anyways. Seeing as you feel so strongly about it we'll try to work some magic in other ways...

Bifauxnen · 10/09/2014 16:43

Where was the logic and evidence?

BuffyBotRebooted · 10/09/2014 16:41

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PetulaGordino · 10/09/2014 16:40

exactly

though the OP is wrong in terms of blame - feminists here are asking for the thread to remain

Hakluyt · 10/09/2014 16:38

"Well that confirms it, I was banned from Mumsnet and the thread I created is going to be deleted, even though I made no personal attacks on any of the posters, and tried to the best of my ability to ground all my arguments in logic and evidence. As some of the posters there have already noted, that rather proves my point about legitimate grievances with modern-day feminism. Either agree entirely with our form of gender equality, or you'll be banned."

MNHQ- please don't delete this thread. If you do, we're playing into their hands.

SevenZarkSeven · 10/09/2014 16:35

Also outself really enjoyed your last post there. Excellent illustration Thanks for sharing

PetulaGordino · 10/09/2014 16:35

please kate

i'll go and muster more support for the MNHQ Christmas Gin Appeal idea if it helps

LineRunner · 10/09/2014 16:35

Even my 15 year old son says Reddit has gone to shit lately. In fact his exact words were, 'Right wing, racist and tedious'.

SevenZarkSeven · 10/09/2014 16:34

I Also think it would be great if this could be locked rather than deleted. Smile Smile

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