Scottish Referendum - Any Feminist Thoughts?

Sorry for being short but it was to explain why I hadn't posted further!

are we not allowed to talk about it on other threads? with a specific focus on feminist analysis?

why did you bring up the fact that ruth davidson is a lesbian?

I've posted extensively on IndyRef threads.
Winifred has it.

Look closely at the SNP.

Weird assumption about feminists altogether

AD and AS are coming on for a webchat - I've put a question on the thread.

I don't have a vote, but I think it would be an economic and historical mistake to separate.

It's not a position driven by my feminism though.

I'm not really sure what your point is. Do you have any insights into some of the thoughts here? If you have more experience and involvement it would be helpful and interesting to hear that

Good.

I'm in England and I've heard of Ruth Davidson

Leader of Scottish Conservatives is a lesbian.

Don't think it's relevant myself but I thought I'd pass that on as if you are outwith Scotalnd you'll have probably never heard of Ruth Davidson.

There has been some talk about what public services will look like in Scotland is they get the yes vote. As public services are majority employers of women, this could have long reaching consequences.

Before voting yes, I'd want some answers to some pretty fundamental questions, like currency. It's all very well the yes campaign blithely saying that England will let them use the pound, but as the government has pretty categorically said they won't, where's the plan B?

Having said that, I don't live in Scotland so have no say in any of it.

massive swing of women to yes vote is surely massive reaction to that fucking awful video.

and I can't blame them

If I were a Scot I'd be voting yes.
As an English person I'll be very sorry to see them go, if it goes that way, it would be a huge loss.

grimbletart re the heart vs head thing and taking your example of the economics not adding up, what i'm wondering is whether a man (subconsciously perhaps) might take the view that ultimately even if the details aren't ironed out yet he'll probably be fine. women may be more likely to take the view (again possibly subconsciously) that as she's used to being fairly low down the pecking order in economic considerations, she wants more information before she makes up her mind

I don't know whether as a woman I would be "better the devil you know" or not and as I am not Scottish it is probably cheeky of me to have a view anyway, but I feel that there is a strong emotional element to the Yes vote. Personally I would be eschewing the "heart" element of voting for a more hard-headed one. If the economics don't add up (and I would need a heck of a lot more convincing that they do than I have heard so far) then all the touchy-feely stuff about fairness, wealth distribution etc. won't be worth anything.

To the Yes voters my feeling is "be careful what you wish for…."

oh i meant to start a thread on this a few weeks ago when they talked about women and the referendum on woman's hour! completely forgot, how annoying

it's still available here - first slot

the gist of what they were saying, which as things have changed rapidly over the last few weeks is probably out of date now, was that women were less likely to have made up their minds yet or to favour the "no" vote as you say. there was some discussion debate about whether this was the case, and if so, why would that be. the commentator suggested that women are researching the issues and details more deeply.

i'm not scottish and i live in england , i want scotland to stay in the union, but i totally understand why a scottish person would vote for independence

but i wonder whether with all political change, women tend to be more at risk rather than risk-averse. if there is political change, any negative effects will likely have more of an impact on women, and any positive effects will more likely have an impact on men (sweeping generalisation, but this is my impression of spending cuts over the last few years - and it doesn't matter enormously whether it's true, just whether that is the impression women get). so it wouldn't surprise me if women were more of a "better the devil you know" way of mind. their current state is always more precarious, so they are more cautious about the unknown - if they are going to vote for change, they need to be absolutely sure that they're not voting for greater negative consequences for themselves.

i may be totally wrong, but it's one reading of it i think

You have made a heck of a lot of assumptions about no voters and yes voters there.