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WHO have started making recommendations for 'women of reproductive age'

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PlentyOfPubeGardens · 28/08/2014 20:49

I don't expect many on this board to care about ecigs and this thread isn't about them but about the wording they have chosen to use in their report, due to be debated in October:

The evidence is sufficient to caution children and adolescents, pregnant women, and women of reproductive age about ENDS use because of the potential for fetal and adolescent nicotine exposure to have long-term consequences for brain development.

I'm used to seeing this pre-pregnant shit from right-wing US comentators but am shocked that the WHO are now making recommendations specifically for 'women of reproductive age'. The rot is setting in and it's pissing me right off. Anybody else?

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SevenZarkSeven · 28/08/2014 21:45

Fucking hell you expect better from groups like that.

So e.g. me, 2 kids and definitely no more thanks, needs to be cautioned to watch my behaviour simply because I have a womb. FFS.

This whole idea that all female between the age of about 10 and 50 must have their behaviour monitored and curtailed on the basis that at any given point well, they might be pregnant, is really fucking shit.

I suppose they might argue that many girls and women around the world don't have access to contraception, abortion, or full control over who has sex with them and when. In which case I'd say those particular girls and women have more pressing sodding concerns than a few ecigs.

Blistory · 28/08/2014 21:44

I'm a woman of reproductive age but given that I have no intention of ever having children, I'll happily ignore that caution.

Can I get a different category please or do I now have to wear a badge if I want to smoke, drink, screw around, change the kitty litter etc that states 'Don't panic, I won't be using my eggs'

Or do I have to accept that as a woman, it is theoretically possible for me to become pregnant and therefore I must live my life as if I will be pregnant one day. WHO's advice effectively treats all women of reproductive age as potential incubators.

Next step will be to give my eggs actual rights themselves. Which of course does not damage my liberty in any way.

PlentyOfPubeGardens · 28/08/2014 21:41

The arguments about nicotine are neither here nor there (they're wrong but that's another thread), if it wasn't nicotine it could be alcohol or soft cheese or coffee or something else. The issue is that they are advising 'women of reproductive age' - i.e. any woman from the age of menarche to menopause to behave as if she might be pregnant.

I feel powerless. How do you challenge WHO on stuff like this? (not a rhetorical question - if anybody knows a route for complaint please let me know).

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QueenStromba · 28/08/2014 21:32

On top of that they also refer to outdated work and haven't bothered to proof read. I've lost a some respect for WHO.

WoTmania · 28/08/2014 21:24

Curwen - but 'women of reproductive age' - that's not pregnant or actively TTC women who will probably want to avoid things that may be harmful to the foetus it's any woman of child bearing age just in case they may become pregnant or be unknowingly pregnant

WoTmania · 28/08/2014 21:22

Oh FFS. Really WHO? Really really?

Curwen · 28/08/2014 21:21

Aren't they saying that the effects of nicotine for these groups are already understood to be dangerous for these groups, and that e-cigs are are a new way of delivering this toxic chemical. Ergo, these groups need to be made aware that e-cigs are not a safer way to smoke. It isn't a new poison, just a new delivery method.

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