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5 questions for people who advocate legal prostitution

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AskBasil · 25/08/2014 10:23

genderdetective.wordpress.com/2014/08/10/five-questions-for-people-who-advocate-legalizing-prostitution/

Made me fink

OP posts:
Sabrinnnnnnnna · 15/09/2014 19:50

You've been here a long time, punter. You raise the same points over and over - all of which have been argued at length on other threads.

Do you ever actually read replies to your posts? Or do you just come here for the laffs?

CaptChaos · 15/09/2014 19:49

Yes yes punter, we know. Only men who want to rape women for money should be allowed to speak.

buwegevove · 15/09/2014 19:42

"4: Consider the prominent male voices in support of prostitution. Are you comfortable supporting an industry fueled almost solely by the demand of anti-feminist and openly misogynistic men?"

And the evidence to support this claim is a link to an article written by one guy??

What about all the sexworkers with years of experience selling sex who speak out against criminalisation (or part criminalisation such as the nordic model)?

  1. Ah the "invisible man" thing by Nia Thomas who took the time to wade through well over 100,000 reviews on PN to cherry pick a couple of dozen and then attempts to portray those as "representative". I just knew the invisible man would be in there somewhere, but I'm surprised there wasn't anything using The Guardian's Julie Bindel as a source.
buwegevove · 15/09/2014 19:36

If I wanted to learn I wouldn't want to "learn" from some person who gets evicted from the APA and who thinks her "research" website isn't complete without a list of rape "jokes".

PetulaGordino · 15/09/2014 17:00

oh thank goodness. a couple of days without a punter on here explaining things properly - there was me thinking how much they were missed. what a relief one has turned up in the nick of time

Sabrinnnnnnnna · 15/09/2014 16:53

buwegevove - no, you just stopped thinking.

Probably a long time ago. It went, along with your humanity, when you first became a pimp/punter.

CaptChaos · 15/09/2014 15:13

Depends if I had a vested interest in ensuring a supply of women for me to wank into or if I was actually interested in learning. So, you'd be the former then.

buwegevove · 15/09/2014 15:13

" FloraFox Wed 10-Sep-14 12:56:00

Or tell us how much we know or don't know about prostitution?"

How many years experience do you have selling sex then?

buwegevove · 15/09/2014 14:37

If you were reading a list of "facts"on something and the first one used the Daily Mail as a source, would you continue reading to the end?

Sabrinnnnnnnna · 15/09/2014 14:33

You stopped thinking, more like.

buwegevove · 15/09/2014 14:23

re OP, I stopped reading when I saw the source for Q1 was Melissa Farley who (as you may or may not know) was kicked out of the APA following a complaing about her "research" on sexwork and used to have a page full of rape "jokes" about sexwork on her "research" website. (Which she removed after it got negative publicity when it came to the attention of sexworkers).

Zazzles007 · 10/09/2014 13:01

I want to know about the new guy's experience in prostitution (gah, I can't find his name, but it really doesn't matter does it). I am sure that a male experience of either being a prostitute or being a john would be of enormous interest to us.

So gowan new guy, tell us about your experiences, either as a prostitute or as a john Grin.

CaptChaos · 10/09/2014 12:59

Which kind of 'sexworkers' are you talking about, punter?

So, you like watching women being killed as decoration in games. Women shutting up. And wanking into women who don't want you to be doing that, but have to let you, because you've paid for it. What a catch you are!

FloraFox · 10/09/2014 12:56

Or tell us how much we know or don't know about prostitution?

LurcioAgain · 10/09/2014 08:00

Don't you love it when punters come on here and tell us how to do feminism?

wazedak · 10/09/2014 02:49

Don't you just love it how feminists act like they know more about sexwork than actual sexworkers with experience?

FloraFox · 04/09/2014 17:14

Thanks and Brew migsy

migsymoo · 04/09/2014 13:10

No I wouldn't be happy if he was like or a punter but I hope to have stopped before he is old enough to know what's going on.

FloraFox · 03/09/2014 18:04

migsy do you want your son to grow up and find a woman (or women) who he can pimp out to other men while he lives off her and doesn't work? Why do you think it is a good thing for your child to grow up with your relationship as his model?

BrewsterToo · 03/09/2014 16:25

"doing himself" should be "having done to himself" of course

BrewsterToo · 03/09/2014 16:23

I think that someone who demands/expects that you accept having unpleasant and invasive things done to you that he would never even contemplate doing himself, shows how he doesn't see you as an equal partner in the relationship. He is too good for prostitution but you are not.

You feel better because he's listened to your concerns about working alone, and you feel better because your child has a father figure, and you may even feel "needed" because you're now providing not just for you and your child, but also for him which is a nice feeling, but you are still being used Migsy. Perhaps even to a greater extent than before, because you're now not just financially tied to him, but also emotionally.

I am glad you feel slightly better about the situation, but you can do much better than this, and him!

grimbletart · 03/09/2014 15:18

Migsy Smile. Take care.

Sounds like a lot of your clients are trying to rationalise their behaviour. Not surprising. If they had even half a conscience they should be feeling guilt, shame and embarrassment at having sex with a woman who doesn't want to have sex with you.

migsymoo · 03/09/2014 15:11

Often they will talk to me about why they're here, it's almost like they need to explain themselves, and I here alot about their need to have sex or they get horny during the day and their partner isn't interested anymore in that department so they have to pay for it. And I really don't feel intelligent right now. I've known him for so long now, I know that once the stuff in our lives gets sorted we can look forward to a better future. He's also the dad to my baby so I'm glad my child will grow up with two parents who are together now and not just friends who occasionally slept together.

grimbletart · 03/09/2014 14:55

I don't know what they'd do with their need to have it randomly during the day.

Don't get the "need" and the "randomly" bit Migsy. Do they explode if they don't get it and implode if it isn't random or what?

And I still don't get why it is OK for you to have sex when you don't want it, but apparently unthinkable for him. Not being gay is not an excuse. After all, there are lesbian prostitutes who have sex with men, so what is the difference?

You sound far too intelligent Migsy to be taken for the fool that this guy is obviously taking you for.

migsymoo · 03/09/2014 14:46

Hi briar, and buffy I don't know what clients would do, i suppose they'd have affairs or if they're single try and get sex in the conventional was like going on the pull. Clients see paying for sex as a convenience and I don't know what they'd do with their need to have it randomly during the day. It's a good question that's really hard to answer.

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