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Any appetite for further discussion on 'trans-feminism'?

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CrewElla · 24/08/2014 09:06

I made the mistake this morning of reading the comments on an article on the Guardian website re Kellie Maloney being 'outed' in the tabloids which led to me googling trans-feminism and coming across this article from the New Yorker: www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/08/04/woman-2

I haven't considered myself radical in the past and, at times, even (naively) said I had no need of feminism. Reading the New Yorker article I felt they so missed the point and tried to marginalise a view (woman have a need for spaces free from penises, whether the penis belongs to a man or a transwoman) that I don't think is that radical.

Am I being naive? Does anyone have the time/interest to read the article and share their views on it?

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ApocalypseThen · 24/08/2014 14:11

I don't get what trans feminism is. All I have seen so far is transwomen talking about what they have decided they are entitled to from women - inclusion, acceptance on strictly their terms only, and deference.

OverTheHandlebars · 24/08/2014 14:05

I read the article and agree that it seems rather odd that the actual reason why radical feminists want spaces for females only was never mentioned. I suppose it's not that odd really, it fits with the general marginalisation of radical feminists.

I don't think it's at all radical to want penis-free spaces but I do think that that view is rapidly being painted as unreasonable, and without a rather more significant backlash to the whole gender identity politics movement than we have already seen then soon it will be near impossible to have those spaces. I think the popular idea that anyone can be a women if they say so has snuck up on a lot of people. I don't know how that idea can be reversed though.