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ISIS Fighters - Living the MRA Dream?

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CKDexterHaven · 22/08/2014 13:53

For obvious reasons pilgrims to join ISIS have been in the news for the last few days. There has been lots of analysis as to why young men might do this - religious fervour, seeking adventure, social alienation, anti-Western feelings - but maybe another factor is getting to live the MRA dream. You get to live like the alpha male warrior you always knew you were, everyone succumbs to your worldview or they die, women will be your adoring handmaidens or they will be sold-off as slaves, men with more meaningful lives will be slain. Is it any wonder that, in a society that sells the fantasy of living as a hyper-macho fuckwad, some men lust for the opportunity for living as a pure hyper-macho fuckwad? Add in religion and you get to feel sanctimonious about behaviour that should have you condemned to the bottom of a padded oubliette. The ISIS world is the world MRAs would have us living in, isn't it?

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AICM · 22/08/2014 15:01

CD

You accuse me of trying to police what people on here can talk about and in your next sentence you try to police what people on here can talk about by telling people not to talk to me.

AICM · 22/08/2014 14:56

Capt

"Women asking to be treated as full human beings 'might be a factor in leading.... men to join ISIS?' "
Where did this quote come from?

CaptChaos · 22/08/2014 14:51

And really? Women asking to be treated as full human beings 'might be a factor in leading.... men to join ISIS?' Well, how fucking dare we? We must immediately give up any and all rights just so that disaffected youth don't go and become terrorists.

AICM · 22/08/2014 14:49

Sorry CK I didn't realise I wasn't allowed to disagree with you.

I'll change my mind. Yes some men hate women so much they are joining ISIS so that they can behead men.

CaptChaos · 22/08/2014 14:48

There was an interesting article I read earlier (will see if I can find it) about how women fighters are being used a lot in the fight against IS because, if they are killed by a woman, they don't get the 70+ virgins version of heaven.

As an aside, what happened to James Foley was disgusting beyond belief, however, if you really believe that that is a reasonable assessment of what IS is doing or capable of doing, you really need to get out and get yourself informed. Unless you think that rape and forced marriage are neither important, nor suitable topics for feminist discussion?

CKDexterHaven · 22/08/2014 14:39

I'm talking about ISIS and why men join them. Violence is gendered. AICM stop hanging around a feminist board policing what women can talk about.

Please do not derail this thread by responding to AICM and allowing him to derail yet another thread.

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NeoFaust · 22/08/2014 14:37

Your probably right that the alienation many young men experience as a result of feminism might be a factor in leading them to join. This would be particularly true in subcultures that have a powerful patriarchal element relative to the host culture.

But what AICM said.

AICM · 22/08/2014 14:31

Is this a wind up? An innocent man is beheaded and you want to make it about feminism?

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