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Women runners - advice please?

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penguinsaresmall · 19/08/2014 10:44

Am thinking this is probably the best topic to post in for some good advice - first post here so please be kind!

I've been running for a few months. Started with couch to 5k and really enjoyed how much healthier I've been feeling, so have been running a few times a week ever since. But unwanted attention from men is putting me off.

I sometimes run alone, sometimes with a friend or with DH. I always run in daylight and don't run on the pavement but in parks - I've had joint issues before and was advised by a trainer to run on grass. I also usually have headphones in as listening to music really helps me keep my pace up.

Anyway, the unwanted attention is usually nothing more than leery looks (particularly if there are a group of men I have to run past) and some comments, which I find easier to ignore if I have my headphones on as I can 'pretend' I haven't heard them and don't make eye contact. That's not to say it doesn't annoy me thought.

But there have been a couple of times where it has been much more full on than that and I have actually felt quite unsettled by it. Both times another runner (male) is there. Inevitably because we're not running at the same pace, one of us will pass the other. At that point, the man has either sped up or slowed down to stay with me and try to start a conversation. On the first occasion, I had my headphones in and tried to politely nod but then keep running and pretty much ignore him. But this man seemed determined to keep trying to talk to me, and when I instead ran ahead of him to 'get away' he sped up too and ran directly behind me for a while, before loudly making a sexual remark about my bum.

Two days ago I went to another park, this time with my DH, who is an experienced runner and much fitter than me. We don't stay together as he is much faster than me - so we both run around the park but with him lapping me a few times. So we were doing this and after a while another man started running too. The first time he passed me he made a jokey comment about him being outrun by a woman. I smiled politely and kept running. But then I lapped him a couple more times and each time his remarks started to get more creepy (you look gorgeous, what an arse, keep going love it's doing it for me, etc...). The last time I am coming up to him I do a detour and ignore him completely, which is met by a loud wolf whistle. DH hears it and is looking round from the other side of the park to see what's going on. He starts to jog over to me and the man leaves.

So - my problem is that I now feel uneasy about running on my own, but I don't want to stop doing it. So what do I do? When I told DH what had happened he was really annoyed that he hadn't realised what was going on as he would have come over. And he is saying that if I am worried he will stay with me in future.

But I don't want to feel that I should be 'chaperoned' when running. I should be able to run around the park if I want to without being intimidated and leered at. But on the other hand, I don't know how I can stop it happening, although I shouldn't let it put me off, it has put me off running on my own.

I looked on some running websites for advice for women runners and was actually quite appalled by the huge list of 'do's and 'don't's (mostly don't actually).

Don't run alone
Don't run in the dark
Don't run with headphones in
Don't run without a rape alarm
Don't run without telling others your exact route and when you will be back
Don't run in a quiet area/park

What options does that leave me with?!

FFS actually it seems as if I shouldn't be trying to run at all because I'm clearly putting myself at huge risk by even considering doing it in the first place.

So is it possible to run in public alone and feel safe, and to not get hassled constantly? Or is it just something I have to put up with? I know part of my problem is I really struggle not to be polite (ie to smile, acknowledge, etc) anybody who tries to talk to me.

Sorry this is so long btw.

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penguinsaresmall · 19/08/2014 11:02

Thanks Miss - I have thought about parkrun but keep putting it off as I'm not sure if I'm up to that 'standard' yet - I would feel a right lemon running miles behind everybody else. And I can't see myself ever getting up early enough to run before DH goes to work, the DC are up, etc...

I know I need to learn to be more blunt/rude to people. I find myself smiling at and acknowledging people when I would rather ignore them - why do I feel the need to do that? Confused.

I suppose my main issue is that running has made me realise that as a woman, I can't just go out and do it in the way that a man would, and that has really pissed me off!

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Missunreasonable · 19/08/2014 10:54

I'm usually a sweaty mess by the time I finish running so I don't suffer leering men much Grin, however I have a phobia of dogs so I have to restrict my running in parks (not nearly the same, I know).
I have had to work around my phobia and reduce my concerns about dogs chasing me whilst running by changing when and where I run.
I bought a treadmill and use that at home (better for joints than running on concrete anyway). When I do run outside I go early in the morning when there is less traffic and people around so I can avoid needing to go to the park.
You shouldn't have to give up running or feel intimidated by some poor excuses for men, at least my running concerns are my own fault and not somebody else causing it.
Have you checked if there are any running groups in your area that you could join so you don't have to feel isolated?
Could you do a weekly park run where you will be amongst other runners most of whom are usually quite sensible people?
The only other thing I can suggest is two fingers up at them.

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