Abortion in Ireland, proof of being suicidal

I would like to see someone (Amnesty?) take this to the European Court. It is the most appalling breach of human rights. Ireland should be expelled from the EU over this. So much for lessons being learned after the utterly tragedy of the dentist who died.

FFS. 2014. In Europe. Bastards. Utter bastards.

It's absolutely horrifying. It must surely be a breach of her human rights?

From Grimble's link: They said the pregnancy was too far. It was going to have to be a Caesarean section... They said, wherever you go in the world, the United States, anywhere, at this point it has to be a Caesarean,” she said. She felt she didn’t have a choice.

They lied! They fucking lied to a vulnerable young woman. This case just gets more and more revolting.

No paywall on the Irish Times.

www.irishtimes.com/news/health/woman-in-abortion-case-tells-of-suicide-attempt-1.1901256

It gets worse..in the interview she said she requested an abortion at 8 weeks after being raped and at 16 weeks attempted suicide. She was also told that at 25 weeks the only option was a CS. The baby is still in an incubator.

If anyone here is local to Belfast, there is a protest on tonight from 6pm - 7pm outside City Hall about this. In fact I understand there are protests happening at 6pm in lots of different cities for the same reason.

www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/homeV2/article1447800.ece

It's behind their bloody paywall, but, it turns out that the young woman in question was raped and was also an asylum seeker, so couldn't have left Ireland for an abortion even if she could have got the money together. She also doesn't have much English.

Ireland does have abortion rights for women who have been victims of rape or incest, but, because there is no actual legislation, it's poorly understood.

The child, because it was born to an asylum seeker, may not have an automatic right to stay in Ireland, despite having been taken into state care.

But yeah, it's abortion which is barbaric and inhumane, so so right.

They fucking force fed her in order to bring into the world a child at a gestation that will need NICU.

These are the same people who let a woman die because her dead foetus wasn't dead enough?

Barbaric.

Barbaric indeed, poor Woman, poor Baby.

This is the same country that let Savita Halappanavar die because her miscarriage still had a heartbeat. It's medieval that a woman can be left to die in agony because of misogynistic religious beliefs that she may not even hold.

It makes me feel sick, it's barbaric.

What 5madthings just said.

For those who would be able to help, this is an organisation who help women in Eire and NI to access abortions in the UK.

www.abortionsupport.org.uk/

Unfortunately this story does not surprise me at all. I would be curious to know what the mental health assessment consisted of. During my experience (which I know some of you on this thread know about) I wasn't routinely given a mental health assessment. In fact it was only because I challenged one of the consultants by quoting the legislation that I was given a mental health assessment at all.

It's not about the baby/foetus though is it? It can't be or they wouldn't have performed the c section at 25wks, if they really were pro life/cared about the baby (as a person) they would have made her carry it longer.

It's about control and punishing women, she had sex ergo she must suffer.

And the early c section makes it worse somehow, not only have they forced the woman to suffer but they have pretty much guaranteed that the baby will also suffer, it is massively unlikely that there will be no long term consequences to being that premature.

It is horrific. Where's the compassion or empathy?

Fucking patriarchy.

agreed captchaos

very reminiscent of the X-case if the story about rape is true. Suicidal woman prohibited from abortion of pregnancy as a result of rape.

Even if it was from a night of the world's most ecstatic consensual sex, they still had no fucking right to detain her, force feed her and make her go through a c-section. None.

I am utterly repulsed by this.

People are commenting on Twitter this evening that the pregnancy was as a result of rape.

Law in Ireland is barbaric. Women are as said upthread reduced to incubators with no autonomy over their own bodies.

They performed the c section at 25wks?!! What are the odds of that baby having complications and probably life long health issues.

The small blessing is they allowed that rather than force the woman to carry to term. It says the hospital were granted permission to hydrate her (with a drip?) so from the sounds of it she was confined to hospital and that is why she was possibly unable to commit suicide.

So not only forced to continue the pregnancy but it sounds like she was detained? Probably against her will in hospital.

OMFG they force fed her.

Talk about removal of autonomy. How utterly barbaric.

Fucking disgusting.

This is the story as it appears on the BBC. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-28823433

So, not only was she suicidal, but she is young and vulnerable. But yeah, it's just fine that they made her gestate until they decided to cut her open, because that's all women are for, isn't it?