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Why the fucking fuck is that rapist Ched Evans being released anyway?

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AskBasil · 14/08/2014 18:22

I thought that in order to get parole, the minimum you had to do was admit that you are actually guilty of the crime for which you've been imprisoned?

But Evans the rapist hasn't admitted that he's a rapist. He keeps saying he's innocent.

So why is he being released?

Is this normal now?

Do all prisoners automatically get early release for good behaviour even if they keep saying they didn't actually do the crime, therefore proving that the one thing that used to be a necessity for early release - remorse - is definitely missing?

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SevenZarkSeven · 14/08/2014 20:23

He needs to murder his victim, is the answer I'm afraid.

JustTheRightBullets · 14/08/2014 20:22

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SevenZarkSeven · 14/08/2014 20:21

Professional footballers are role models for boys and young men, that's just a fact.

Hence there are things like "bringing the game into disrepute". It is frequently mentioned when footballers are racist or violent (proper violence against men I mean not non-violence against women like rape) that they are role models and thus their behaviour is important, and when it fails to reach an appropriate standard action must be taken.

JustTheRightBullets · 14/08/2014 20:20

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treaclesoda · 14/08/2014 20:16

cross posted with Capt Chaos about the children thing.

EveDallasRetd · 14/08/2014 20:14

There is no appeal Hup. That was denied last year.

It was never proved that she tweeted that. Ched Evans supporters keep saying rubbish like that, but when asked to prove it, can't.

treaclesoda · 14/08/2014 20:14

I was thinking about the footballing thing. Do professional footballers not usually do things for their club eg charity type things, or visiting the club's youth team, or even just leading a child out onto the pitch on match day. Would a convicted rapist not be on the sex offenders register and therefore not allowed to be around children in such a capacity? In which case his conviction should very much affect him earning his living as a footballer.

Or does it not quite work like that?

JustTheRightBullets · 14/08/2014 20:14

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thecageisfull · 14/08/2014 20:12

what is the intention of pretending it will be twice as long as it is? so it looks better in the press but doesn't overcrowd the prisons so much?

So prison governors can use loss of remission for offences that would otherwise have to go back to court. Things like drug offences or assault committed inside which is not so bad as to warrant a whole new trial.

CaptChaos · 14/08/2014 20:11

If he worked in a bank, or an accountants or an insurance broker, do you think he would be welcomed back, no questions asked, Mengog? Do you think an office manager would go and visit his convicted rapist employee in prison?

Why do you think that a professional soccer player should be able to wander back into his old job having served time for rape, having no remorse for his crime, having, if not positively encouraged his fans to hound his victim, then not telling them to leave her alone? Football isn't just another job. Do give your head a wobble.

His manager is saying that he will be wanting to send the rapist into schools. You'd be happy to have a convicted rapist having access to your children then?

Hup · 14/08/2014 20:11

I don't think the girls tweets helped though, where she talked if a big pay day coming her way! They will use these in the appeal as they were not used in original case.

SevenZarkSeven · 14/08/2014 20:08

Football is not just another job by any standards. That is a really ludicrous statement.

Interesting though to think about it. If my company hires a convicted rapist, I don't have any right to know that do I. I might be sent away on business trips with him and all the rest of it and have no idea that he's a predator.

At least with Ched I guess everyone knows - even if a lot of them seem to think it's not true. Is it that they think he didn't do what he was convicted of, or if they think what he was convicted of doesn't count as rape, I wonder. Maybe a mix of both.

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ApocalypseThen · 14/08/2014 20:05

Ched on the other hand, just walked in and stuck himself inside an obviously paralytic woman. After having asked his friend if he could have a go.

Great to see a young man observing the strictest social conventions.

SevenZarkSeven · 14/08/2014 20:04

independent

here

he will be released in october after serving 1/2 of a 5 year sentence.

ApocalypseThen · 14/08/2014 20:03

Everyone has a right to maintain their innocence.

More compelling when you aren't on video.

Mengog · 14/08/2014 20:03

Well it's his profession. If someone will have him, be it in the UK or abroad, then I don't see a problem. Football is just another job. If he played semi-pro for £100 a week would anyone care.

SevenZarkSeven · 14/08/2014 20:01

from gov.uk

"If the prisoner has a fixed term (determinate) sentence
A prisoner serving a determinate sentence is normally released automatically halfway through their sentence.

If their sentence is 12 months or more, they will be released on probation.

A Parole Board is not involved."

So why the actual fuck do they not just say what the actual time is? why say 4 years for eg when it's going to be 2? doesnt that mean it's 2?

what is the intention of pretending it will be twice as long as it is? so it looks better in the press but doesn't overcrowd the prisons so much?

baffled.

CaptChaos · 14/08/2014 20:00

According to his mum's website, he should only be eligible for parole in October.

StealthPolarBear · 14/08/2014 19:57

How long has hr actually beem in prison? Seems about six months since he went in.
plus does anyone know if you have to show remorse to be released early? Clearly not.
pathetic.

JustTheRightBullets · 14/08/2014 19:57

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CaptChaos · 14/08/2014 19:54

There ya go... Thanks Just clears it up.... funny.... it's not on the website. Just lots of stuff slagging off the jury, the victim and everyone apart from the convicted rapist.