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Are there any innate differences between men and women?

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Annie11111 · 07/08/2014 14:26

I am talking about psychology, hormone influence, brain ''wiring'' and all that jazz... I don't believe there are and the rest is just pseudoscience .

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AnyFucker · 11/08/2014 11:59
Grin
AnnieLobeseder84745729548372626462626462 · 11/08/2014 11:54

Yes'M

AnyFucker · 11/08/2014 11:52

Unforgiveable. Add some random numbers to your Annie immediately !

AnnieLobeseder · 11/08/2014 11:51

Urgh, I'm so upset I did an apostrophe wrong. Blush

AnnieLobeseder · 11/08/2014 11:51

Well, on the subject of Annie's with numbers, there are:
Annie911
Annie987
Annie456
Annie56
annie06
AnxiousAnnie43
annieapple7

They aren't even tryyyyyyyyyyyiiiiiing!

But the big-hitting Annies are still me and Anniegetyourgun, and she's awesome so I'm very happy to share Annie-ness with her.

ABlandAndDeadlyCourtesy · 11/08/2014 11:46

AnnieL, at least you aren't Annie with four 1s, who seems perfectly normal...

AnyFucker · 11/08/2014 11:43

Common as muck, innit

AnnieLobeseder · 11/08/2014 11:42

I just checked the Talk archive. 21 different Annies!!!

Herumph.

AnyFucker · 11/08/2014 11:38

There is also this:

manboobs vs ladylumps

it's very profound

AnnieLobeseder · 11/08/2014 11:36

I hear Asian people are different from Native Americans too. And that heterosexual men are different to homosexual men. Is it remotely important or relevant to anything, or does it give us real insight into whether a given individual in any of those groups might be better/worse at a task their group is deemed "better" or "worse" at?

No.

So why ask the question in the first place?

AnnieLobeseder · 11/08/2014 11:33

So not just another frikkin' Annie, but a trolly one?

Sigh.

CaptainFracasse · 11/08/2014 11:31

I agree with buffythat saying 'men and women are different' is opening the door to saying men are better than.

See how this is used. Anything that is found is to show that men are better than women at whereas women are better at .

And then you also have studies that shows that girls aren't as good at maths than boys because 'look at the results in Y7. They are already behind'. Which forgets that in other countries that aren't as misogyn girls are doing better than boys at maths.

CaptainFracasse · 11/08/2014 11:26

The problem too us that the brain us very malleable.
So you take x brains from men, study, measure, analyse them. Then you take y brain ds from women and do the same.
You find that there are the same apart from this tiny difference in area A.

Now bearing in mind that studies have shown that the brain changes as people are meditating and that a specific area in the brain is getting bigger because of that, how to you if these difference are due to being a man/woman is genetic or if it's coming from having used that area more ie socialisation???

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 11/08/2014 11:20

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AnyFucker · 11/08/2014 11:19

I answered the question, that is all that can be expected Smile

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 11/08/2014 11:17

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AnyFucker · 11/08/2014 10:38

men have widgies and women have foo-foos

Fact

BreakingDad77 · 11/08/2014 10:34

How about 'broadly similar' versus different?

Aren't some of these differences age / time based? It wasn't long ago that men and society at large thought women completly physically and mentally inferior.

Should we now be more similar than ever?

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 09/08/2014 16:51

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LEMmingaround · 09/08/2014 16:26

Surely thats the same thing buffy? Men and women are different. It doesn't mean one or other is better.

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 09/08/2014 16:19

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LEMmingaround · 09/08/2014 16:13

Edam I said there were differences. I didn't say they were significant Grin.

Its been too long since ive studied and the only difference I can remember is the sdnpoa that I mentioned earlier so I'll guess you'll have to google it yourself.

I don't understand the big deal. Men and women are different. This is surely a good thing?

ABlandAndDeadlyCourtesy · 09/08/2014 16:02

"which includes all the messy human factors that may have influenced the plot. "

The Sainted Cordelia touched on a few of these, I think - especially wrt researchers interpreting the response of babies...

edamsavestheday · 09/08/2014 15:55

LEM, please give us more information about what the differences are and what evidence there is that they make any significant difference at all.

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 09/08/2014 11:01

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