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Why do I find this Irritating?

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fionatalbot · 17/07/2014 11:13

Ok

DD and DNephew are both 5 and have recently received their end of term reports. DD's report is very good-DN's more concerning- lots of 'emergings', few 'expecteds'. There are 5 months between them, DD is February born and DNephew is a 'July boy'.

Now, we are very pleased with DD's progress, but I am a little bit fed up of comments from various relatives- like- 'well, she's a girl, they're more mature' and DN is a July-born boy, it's to be expected'. DD certainly isn't particularly mature from my observations.

DN is 5 months younger than DD, which I know makes a huge difference at their age, but the assumption of differences in maturity and ability to cope with school because of their respective genders makes me feel slightly irritated and uncomfortable. I feel these comments are possibly doing both children a disservice- DD because her 'achievements'- such as they are- are potentially undermined by the comments, and DN because his parents may not seek extra support thinking that his behaviours (whole other thread) and attainments are normal for a 'July boy'. I can see the comments continuing throughout their school careers.

Is there any scientific research supporting my relatives' comments or are they stereotyping numpties ?

Any thoughts?

I'm trying to formulate to myself why I feel mildly uncomfortable with this. I would never say anything to my family btw.

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BillnTedsMostFeministAdventure · 17/07/2014 13:39

Lots of people, teachers included, think girls mature quicker etc. They are probably more reassuring DN's mum then doing down your DD. It also sounds like his mum is more sensible than they are if she's ignoring the comparisons / I'm sure she is talking to the teachers as she needs to.

fionatalbot · 17/07/2014 13:30

I always try and avoid actively comparing the two children- although as they are so close in age it can be difficult.
The comments are from grandparents and other siblings rather than DN's mum, I have to say, she rarely invites comparison.

I suppose I could refuse to divulge any details of DD's report, which seems a bit of a shame.

I'm probably being unfair, thinking about it some more. I think the older generation are very concerned about DN possibly having SN and are making these comparisons as a way of reassuring themselves, rather than diminishing DD.

I suppose I should just be thankful that DD is a relatively straightforward child.

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WalkWithTheLonelyOnes · 17/07/2014 12:53

TakeMeUp I get where you're coming from but at the same time there will always be this competition. (Presuming OP is close to DN's parents)

If DN scored higher than DD it would be because he is a child genius but if DD scores higher it is because she is older.

What they're implying is that the only value DD's acheivements have is to either show how good DN is or suggest that he would acheive higher if he was older.

They should be happy for both children individually

Greythorne · 17/07/2014 12:51

Do. Not. Get. Involved. In. Comparing.

That way madness lies....whether your DC is the one doing 'better' or the one struggling.

TakeMeUpTheNorthMountain · 17/07/2014 12:42

Why are you comparing reports?

If some one asks, say DD did very well, delighted with her progress and leave it at that.

Well done to DD, though, be proud of her!

fionatalbot · 17/07/2014 12:35

Thanks for understanding walkwiththelonelyones.
It's impossible to vocalise in real life, I suppose, without coming across as being unfair and unkind to DN.

I just feel that if DD was a DS and had the same report, their reactions and comments would be very different. And that is not right.

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WalkWithTheLonelyOnes · 17/07/2014 12:22

The reason you feel annoyed is because they are dismissing DD's acheivements due to the age gap. I'm a late summer baby and I was always in the top 5% of the year. Not bragging just saying that just because he is a summer baby doesn't mean his shortcomings should be minimised because of his age.

I can see why you're annoyed. They're essentially saying that if the two were born on the same day DN would acheive higher but he hasn't because he's younger.

I would also find it irritating