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Could there be a feminist party in the UK..?

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Scarletohello · 10/07/2014 19:29

So France, Sweden and Germany put up feminist parties in the European elections, if they can do it, why can't we? I was feeling pretty optimistic about it reading this article. ( until I read the comments underneath it) :(

Love to know what you guys think...

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/09/harriet-harman-sexism-politics-feminist-party

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ThatBloodyWoman · 10/07/2014 21:46

I would rather see women treated as equals within the full political sphere than see a feminist party, personally, so while I would support anyone wanting to take that route, it probably wouldn't attract my vote.

WestmorlandSausage · 10/07/2014 21:42

Raconteurs - don't engage Grin more fool the people who think feminism is a joke.

quertber · 10/07/2014 21:41

And the answer to all that is to ban urinals and make men pay a "man-tax" while calling men animals?

Yup, if feminists ruled the country everything would be flower-beds and unicorns.

Raconteurs · 10/07/2014 21:36

Feminism isn't a joke, because I have experienced first hand discrimination because if my sex. I have seen people treat my children differently because of their sex.
Are you honestly saying you can't see that?

Blondieminx · 10/07/2014 21:33

YY mainstream parties are making slooooow progress. I'd so vote for/join/campaign for a feminist party. Really feel none of the 4 biggest/ mainstream parties appeal at the moment.

quertber · 10/07/2014 21:31

"We certainly do not want the pendulum to swing the other way so that men then face discrimination"

You don't think a tax only men pay is discrimination?

quertber · 10/07/2014 21:30

"quertber where is the hypocrisy of feminists raising the inequalities that women still face"

What inequalities? The fact men stand up to pee? The fact men still exist?

The days when women couldn't vote are long gone. Feminism today is a complete joke.

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Scarletohello · 10/07/2014 21:25

Auntie, I want that too but the reality is, they're not. So a feminist party could help highlight issues that the parties are just ignoring. I think there is a quiet revolution going on re women's rights, facilitated in part by sites such as this one. There's over 4 million members of MN and every day I read women saying how this site has helped them have a more feminist outlook both on a personal and a political level. We can talk to each other like never before and for the most part without men butting in ( apart from people like our friend up thread ). I think there's a real mood in the air and an appetite for change

Unless MN is just a little rarefied bubble...

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WestmorlandSausage · 10/07/2014 21:24

I asked on the webchat with the three female politicians which would be the next party to have a female leader (or shadow) or chancellor (or shadow).

Its a peculiar quirk of recent history that the Conservative Party are the only ones to have achieved this, and that it is the Lib Dem party that has been 'exposed' as having not dealt with sexism and misogyny appropriately.

AuntieStella · 10/07/2014 21:17

If a feminist party contributed to the wider debate about fairness in society and showed clearly the areas where different policies would enhance that, I'd be glad if it existed.

But what I really want to see is mainstream parties, by policy and by example, taking equality issues seriously.

CaptChaos · 10/07/2014 21:06

Hear hear, Scarletohello!

I think that, from the PoV of consciousness raising a Feminist Party would be brilliant. I would happily campaign/vote for them.

Hopefully, like in countries where they already exist, it would put women's rights firmly near the top of the political agenda, in the way that UKIP put racism and immigration there during the EU elections.

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Scarletohello · 10/07/2014 21:00

Can we all just ignore the MRA/ troll whatever and not rise to the bait..?

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WhatWouldFreddieDo · 10/07/2014 20:57

of course, I should bloody know by now Blush

PetulaGordino · 10/07/2014 20:54

honestly, it's not worth engaging, reasoned arguments are not the aim

WhatWouldFreddieDo · 10/07/2014 20:53

quertber where is the hypocrisy of feminists raising the inequalities that women still face and trying to come to some agreement as how best to tackle them?

We certainly do not want the pendulum to swing the other way so that men then face discrimination ha ha fat chance!

PetulaGordino · 10/07/2014 20:50

the comments are just SO predictable aren't they. they are pronounced like no one has ever come up with such a cracking rejoinder to these feminist arguments, but honestly, i could read the article and take a pretty good stab at what the comments are going to say

quertber · 10/07/2014 20:46

I'm on topic so I'm not derailing. But I guess you don't like having the hypocrisy of feminism exposed?

CaptChaos · 10/07/2014 20:45

Yes Scarlett. He has hairy hands and pays for consent.

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Scarletohello · 10/07/2014 20:42

Wasn't quertber on another thread ( about someone wanting to learn about feminism) trying to derail it earlier..?

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quertber · 10/07/2014 20:41

"Feminists want the liberation of women."

By introducing a tax only men pay and banning male urinals?

Women will never be liberated as long as men still pee standing up rolls eyes

CaptChaos · 10/07/2014 20:36

Feminists want the liberation of women. Only idiots and trolls seriously believe anything else. Oh, and MRAs and punters, but they aren't actually of any importance.

WestmorlandSausage · 10/07/2014 20:35

I would either vote for or run as a candidate in a feminist party.

WhatWouldFreddieDo · 10/07/2014 20:31

quertber you seem to be quite busy this evening

Raconteurs · 10/07/2014 20:26

That was in response to quertber.

Raconteurs · 10/07/2014 20:25

No it isn't what feminists want at all.