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What surname do your children have?

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AmberTheCat · 04/07/2014 10:08

Following on from the 'Changing my name' thread, I'm interested in what surnames those of us who have children have chosen to give them, and why?

My children have my dp's surname. We're not married, and I felt that people would be more likely to assume that they were my children, and question whether they were his, if they had my name. Not a particularly feminist argument, but one that felt important to me (dp didn't really mind either way).

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AChildminder88 · 05/07/2014 11:20

For me scottishmommy it's about dad feeling as if he can be involved in child's life, in the way that we are as moms. We had to carry and protect baby for 9months, straight off the bat, that's more than the dad can do. So it's an important acknowledgement that they are just as important.

BeCool · 05/07/2014 11:18

scottishmummy it does seem on MN at least, only women have difficult/clumsy/hard to spell or say names they can't wait to shed.

scottishmummy · 05/07/2014 11:12

I thnk you're off a tangent.its actually a nod to prejudice,you don't want folk thinking they're not his,or different kids,by different kids

NigellasDealer · 05/07/2014 11:11

Sounds like Spain is far more feminist in their naming than we are
hardly though - the female name just takes a generation longer to disappear (as I understand it)

AmberTheCat · 05/07/2014 11:08

Perhaps it's, consciously or unconsciously, a desire to help the father feel more involved, and so more likely to stick around? A bit like people commenting that babies look like their father - isn't that supposed to be for the same reason?

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scottishmummy · 05/07/2014 10:54

I think it curious this need to reassure strangers your kids are his kids
And this is achieved by all children having the male name
it's inferred it's bad that people think or question the parentage...why?

AmberTheCat · 05/07/2014 10:49

I have a friend whose surname rhymes in a comedy manner with her husband's (only the first letter is different). Her children have their dad's name, and she spends her life explaining to people that no, she hasn't mis-spelled her own name, it really does have start with that letter...

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AmberTheCat · 05/07/2014 10:46

It's interesting that quite a few people have said things along the lines of 'we're not married so why would I give the kids his name?'. I can completely understand that if the father isn't particularly involved with the child (or if you suspect he won't be), but in a committed partnership I can't see why being married or not makes a difference to the decision - there are still two parents with two different surnames to choose between or combine, aren't there?

I really like the Icelandic (I think?) approach of firstname mother'snamedottir or firstname father'snameson.

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needtobediscreet · 05/07/2014 10:44

One child who has my husband's surname and my surname as a middle name. I kept my surname when we married. Thought about hyphenating but seems OTT and posh to me (just my opinion!) and also our surnames don't hyphenate or go together too well. Also thought hyphenating would cause issues for children when they're older and marrying, especially if they marry a double-barreller too... Spanish names are sooooo long but obviously the norm in Spanish-speaking countries but you'd end up with similar here which wouldn't be so good I don't think.

AChildminder88 · 05/07/2014 10:43

I'm not married, pregnant with #1 but they will have OH surname.
Few reasons, I don't feel any affliation with my surname, it's just a name to me, love my mom and my late father, but don't need a name to convey that love and family unit.
My OH comes from a very blended family, parents both remarried, and he kept dad's name, but is no less his moms. I just feel like if the worse happened and we separated, my child is never going to stop being mine because I carried them, equally for my OH the surname is something that he will always have with child.
When we marry I won't take on his name anyway because it rhymes with my first name haha

scottishmummy · 05/07/2014 10:37

It's a mn observation,woman reports her name dull but hey guess what male name is fantastic
I've never read it the other way.man thinks he's got dull name, opt fir female name

OhGood · 05/07/2014 10:35

The DCs have my surname. DH took my name too.

I feel really lucky that DH was willing / happy to do this. Was desperate for us all to have same name (after had DCs, did not care before!) and my old feminist hangups meant was less than happy about the prospect of changing my name.

HecatePropylaea · 05/07/2014 10:34

I was talking about your post above my first one. I thought it was funny that you said that and then I came along and basically proved the cliche!

scottishmummy · 05/07/2014 10:32

Wasn't responding directly to you hecate
Haha was fideliney post

Darksideofthemoon88 · 05/07/2014 10:28

My newborn DD has DP's surname. We're not married and never plan to be, but I hadn't realised quite how strongly he felt about her having his surname and we had a bit of an argument about it when I was around eight months pregnant Sad. He felt that he would have less of a connection with her if she had my surname because people would assume that he wasn't the father, and he said he'd be uncomfortable at schools/doctors'/airports etc for this reason. I wanted her to have mine because I'm the only female in my branch of the family, so their will be no more Darksides. I find that kinda sad... Anyway, he got his way - I can understand where he's coming from, and we compromised by passing the middle name that me and my mam share on to DD so that, in my eyes at least, she's marked as a Darkside girl. We've agreed that any future DDs will have the same.

MrsCosmopilite · 05/07/2014 10:21

Mine has both. Mine first then DH's. No hyphen.

HecatePropylaea · 05/07/2014 10:18

oh. ha, just seen your post above mine, SM. well, sorry to be a MN cliche but it's true. I swapped your bog standard smith/jones/brown/etc for something I liked better, along your githongo/ndegwa/kuria lines and I was happy to do so for that really really shallow reason.

BeCool · 05/07/2014 10:12

My name.

They have XP's name as a middle name. But it isn't hyphenated or anything so my name is last name.

I'm very happy with their names. I wasn't married to their father, wouldn't change my name if I was married anyway. And I didn't see why they should have any other name but mine.

Their Dad was incapable of having discussions about anything important without flying into a VA rage. On the absence of discussions on the subject I made the decisions myself. He wasn't around much when dd1 was born. I certainly don't see any compelling arguement for her sister to have a different name.

Coristarz · 05/07/2014 10:10

We're not married and our son has my partner's surname. He has a daughter from his previous relationship, so I thought it would be nice for our son to have the same surname as his sister.
We thought of a double-barrel surname, but my surname is French and his surname is Welsh and it just sounded weird! For the same reason, my surname wouldn't work as a middle name.

scottishmummy · 05/07/2014 10:10

Haha

HecatePropylaea · 05/07/2014 10:10

we're married and we've all got his name. I like it better than my old, dull one.

Fideliney · 05/07/2014 10:08

TBH my name is forrin-sounding and unpronouncable and impossible to spell.

I still gave it to the DC Grin

scottishmummy · 05/07/2014 10:02

Doesn't bother me,it's a straight observation of the convoluted reasons to take male name
And oft repeated on mn is wanting his name as family name,to make it a unit
Inference being if it's not his name,it's not family.and different names is somehow bad

Hakluyt · 05/07/2014 09:45

We amalgamated our names but not with a hyphen as historically that is associated with 'bastard' children of the nobility (not a happy association we felt!)

Please tell me you're joking.......please

ThinkIveBeenHacked · 05/07/2014 09:32

When we got married I chose to take DHs name. Dcs have his name. Had we not have been married, they would have my name as thats what I would have been. If he then asked me to marry him (I would have been happy.never marrying but he wanted to) then he could either take my name or stay his name.