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What kind of woman do you want to be?

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Elfina · 30/05/2014 18:53

I was thinking the other day, I'm not sure what I'm aiming for. I want to be successful, in lots of ways. I've been feeling down about not having lost baby weight, and I'm trying to work out why. I think I've got an idea in the back if my mind who the "perfect Elfina" is, but I'm not sure whether it's compatible...I want to be "perfect" at everything. I want to look a certain way. I want to be the best at my career, mother, I want people to think I'm lovely, I want to be kind etc. what kind of a woman do you want to be?

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ezinma · 31/05/2014 10:21

I want to do, rather than to be. I'll leave it to other people to determine what kind of woman/person I am. There's usually no shortage of opinions.

I can't process injunctions like "be happy" or "be yourself". To me, those are yardsticks I can't imagine or realise. There are things I know I like doing, which give me pleasure. I want to carry on doing them, and being healthy enough to do them.

Bonsoir · 31/05/2014 10:18

I disagree - both beauty and happiness are very much within our control - they are merely ongoing goals as opposed to finite ones (climbing Everest/making a million/refitting your kitchen).

I know some people who are so caught up in finite goals because they are results-driven that they forget about process entirely. Their lives and those of their families are very uncomfortable and the DC have lots of mental health issues.

TheWordFactory · 31/05/2014 10:08

Because both are outside our control in many ways. I am a naturally happy person. I wake up in a good mood more often than not. This is just my personality (my mum says a I was a 'sunny' baby). Other people aren't like this and their happiness depends very much on outside factors over which none of us has control. Same with beauty.

StarDustInTheWind · 31/05/2014 10:04

I'm 50, I'm happy, I'm cheerful, I'm open to change... I've reached "good enough".....

Bonsoir · 31/05/2014 10:01

What is meaningless about wanting to be beautiful or happy? Both are great contributors to ongoing well being (= process).

JonSnowKnowsNothing · 31/05/2014 09:59

I'd like the willpower to be healthier than I am now. Which I know is only down to me.

TheWordFactory · 31/05/2014 09:58

By achievement I just mean the goals one sets for oneself. These should always be highly subjective but, I think, fairly specific. Goals such as I want to be happy or I want to be beautiful are meaningless really.

Bonsoir · 31/05/2014 09:56

Not everyone is goal-oriented or results-driven - though people who have those personalities have a really hard time understanding people who are process-driven and think they could achieve so much more.

PacificDogwood · 31/05/2014 09:52

Oh gawd, yes, aiming for 'perfection' is a sure fire way to set yourself up to fail.
Achieving happiness is a great achievement, Bonsoir Wink

Bonsoir · 31/05/2014 09:50

I also think it is a good idea not to be hung up on "achievement". There is a lot more to happiness than achievement.

TheWordFactory · 31/05/2014 09:47

I firmly believe that perfectionism is the enemy of achievement. All the women I know who are perfectionists actually end up achieving less than the steely pragmatists...so although who and what I want to be is always a work in progress, I know that I do not wish to be a perfectionist!!!

TheSameBoat · 31/05/2014 09:28

The socialised me and the feminist me want entirely different things.

The socialised me wants to be skinny. The feminist me wants to not give a fuck about being skinny.

It's a constant battle!

Hazchem · 31/05/2014 02:48

I haven't had the chance to read all the thread but here goes.
I want to be the kind of women people see me as. I feel very disconnected from who people think I am and how I feel. On the whole I think people think I am clever, funny, kind, worthwhile, extraordinary, talented, beautiful, organised, generous but I don't feel those things within myself.

I am working at connecting myself back into who I am but am so stuck at the moment on how I look I can not seam to find myself as the person I used to feel I was. It dismays me as a feminist that I can not equality my actual worth and person hood with more then my external appearance.

I'm totally meant to be studying so will come back later and read other posts.

BillnTedsMostFeministAdventure · 31/05/2014 00:11

Summer Flowers

mameulah · 30/05/2014 23:31

This is a great thread!

Uplateagain · 30/05/2014 23:27

The kind of woman we should aspire to be: we should recognise that we'll never be thin enough, toned enough, tidy enough, capable enough, kind enough, enough enough enough etc etc we just need to be happy to be ourselves. We'll know we're there when we feel we have nothing to prove.

PacificDogwood · 30/05/2014 23:26

We should all stop comparing ourselves to others and stop worrying about we have NOT got, but rather concentrate on what we do.
Honestly.

Wink
PacificDogwood · 30/05/2014 23:24

It is one of the great, deep and profound joys of middle-age that I have become quite fond of who I am and what I am achieving Grin

What kind of woman do I want to be? Pretty much the one I am, maybe more assertive and less prone to procrastination, but overall I'm quite happy.

I want people to think I am nice and competent and take me seriously. I want to be seen as kind in the same way as I want others 'default setting' to be 'kind'.
I cannot be arsed to worry about nails and weight an'all that shite - I am me and I am alright.

GoshAnneGorilla · 30/05/2014 23:19

One that likes themselves.

I was reading a thread about pregnancy and it was sad the number of women who liked being pregnant because they felt they could be happy with their bodies and because they felt they could treat themselves.

No one is going to live my life for me, so I want to have a contented one.

SirChenjin · 30/05/2014 23:16

I want to be happy and healthy, with a good work/life balance. I've accepted that I will never set the world alight, or be the life and soul of the party - but as I'm getting older I'm much happier in my own skin. I'd like to be more confident, as that has definitely held me back over the years, and the depression that I suffer from on and off really bugs me, - but I have a great family in DH and the DCs, and a close circle of really lovely girlfriends. When I'm not moaning and whingeing Blush I realise I'm actually very lucky.

CrotchMaven · 30/05/2014 23:15

Actually, what I've just said is a bit nonsense. I'd like to think about that some more.

scottishmummy · 30/05/2014 23:12

Im happy to be me.not an unattainable strive for perfection.good enough

CrotchMaven · 30/05/2014 23:12

Like Beachcomber, I want to be free. To be the person that I am. I don't mean sex-neutral when I say that, I just mean me.

Preciousbane · 30/05/2014 23:11

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Best1sWest · 30/05/2014 23:07

I'd like to be more confident in standing up for what I believe in. I am getting better at it.