Can we talk about female violence? I need to get my response straight

NO I think the far worse crime is that many men piling on to a contestant on an ill advised gameshow.

Who told you the worst thing was her being hit by him?

Arg will stop it in a minute, but

Hitting men seen as fine but hitting women seen as the worst crime on earth.

IS A CONSTUCTION OF PATRIARCHY WHICH EVERYONE HERE OBJECTS TO you massive massive idiot.

"he smacks back harder."

His (puny) slap did look a (little) harder than hers. But I doubt she will have any injuries or broken bones.

Okay, the only thing that example.proves is the lack of actual position and argument risagburst has. I'm starting to wonder I'd that poster is the beta test of an MRA bot, just firing random and unconnected idiocies into the thread, be cause there's no actual engagement or reasoning here. We should eschew our conditioning as interlocutors who respond well and thoughtfully to everything someone says as if it were a tenable position worthy of respect and just deny those intersections as even worth responding to.

Here's a question, can anyone point to an example of systemic female violence? I can think of female involvement in patriarchal violence, but no actual example of violence perpetrated by women which doesn't nevertheless conform to patriarchal standards. I hav to go out now but would love input.

"That is exactly patriarchy."

No it's feminism.

Hitting men seen as fine but hitting women seen as the worst crime on earth.

Was that a self defence situation? Or did she hit him because she didn't expect him to hit back (because he's male and she's female)?

I think "WTF" probably best sums it up walter.

Man go show purely to be harassed and abused to wine a prize. Host goes too far and smacks him, he smacks back harder. and then a whole host of men jump in to beat the crap out of him while shouting misogynistic insults.

I actually think it's a really good video to show the statistics of gendered violence. One woman to about twenty men beating the holy crap out of each other.

Well done to risa for getting it right. How unusual for an MRA

Wtf?!

Anyone curious about the Tv show linked

From Wiki.
About the show

Started off its 1st season in 2009. It's a show where participants agree upon getting bullied by the "hosts" who make them do tasks to eventually win the show.

Dadagiri: Beat the Bullies, the bully "Esha, the Goddess" used to put up her challenge at the last and used to humiliate the contestants most (even asked the contestants once in an episode to rub their noses on her boots). In one episode, she slapped a contestant Ravi Bhatia (an unscripted physical attack), after instigating a brief, antagonistic verbal exchange. In response he slapped her, and then kept saying 'How can she slap?". This resulted in the male host (and several other members of the crew) attacking Bhatia, with the crew appearing to be slow in breaking them up. The male host also used offensive and threatening language toward Bhatia. Bhatia subsequently sent a legal notice to the producers, asking for a public apology.

Seriously, that's the best 'proof' you can find?!

That is exactly patriarchy. It's patriarchy which requires men to be strong and women vulnerable. Feminists oppose this. The outcomes of this thinking include high levels of male initiated violence - it's considered manly . Feminist campaigners do focus on this as it affects so many people and is responsible for over 90% of violent deaths, for example. However another outcome of this thinking is that female violence against men is seen as unimportant and not a threat. If you are concerned about female violence being minimised you are on the side of the feminists because this phenomenon is caused by the patriarchal construction of men as strong and powerful and women as weak and powerless.

Where were all the women piling in to have a go? Does that come later in the video? Is it like the scene in Life of Brian (are they all in disguise wearing false beards?)

Also you still haven't answered my question.. I can phrase it differently now in light of your little video.

Do you think the man being pummeled was more worried by the slap from the one woman, or the twenty violent men who came in to pile in on him? Is that proof that women can be violent or is it proof that men are overwhelmingly more likely to be violent?

Wow that was pretty weird.

20 men pile up while shouting "fuck your mum" and "fuck your sister" to attack a person who can't fight back. And you have decided the woman who was doing some sort of weird thing for a tv show is the one at fault?

Well that's proved a few things to me.

Meanwhile... India doesn't have a problem with patriarchy. Awesome.

He was standing with his hands behind his back when she assaulted him. Not exactly posing much of a physical threat was he?

Women slaps man- fine.

Man slaps her back- 20 other guys beat him to a pulp.

"patriarchy" my ass

Perhaps women who are victims of DV more than once need to question their lives a bit??

Of course they should. Because escaping a dv relationship and suffering through one causes psychological damage. Of course it does.

If you are persistently drawn to violent and abusive partners then you absolutely should question why.

What's wrong with that?

Male victims of DV are less likely to find support and more likely to experience ridicule because of patriarchal constructions of masculinity, not because of feminism.

If you say "Careful" to girls and not boys, you communicate that you believe girls to be vulnerable and fragile and boys to be strong and resilient. This is sexist, and will help your nieces and nephews internalize these self images. In this way, you are involved in their patriarchal social construction, and if in the future you find them to be treated differently in context of violence, you can count yourself amongst those who have brought this inequality about.

Well we weren't discussing DV were we? We were discussing women being allowed to hit people "whenever they wanted to". And being that MEN are persistently the most violent and likely to attack someone I am confused to why you believe that is the case?

Anyway you haven't answered anyone, what are you doing to curb male violence against males? Being that you are much morel likely to be attacked raped or murdered by a man.. this must really worry you?

Feminism is not something that should be supported. Too many double standards.