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Are sexual insult words ever justified? (follow on from an AIBU thread - wrong place)

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kentishgirl · 01/05/2014 13:04

So....

slag and slut. Strong words. Anti-women/anti-feminist?

But are there ever behaviours that warrant their use?

I'm not thinking of women's sexual behaviour that is not deliberately harmful such as having sex with however many partners, in a certain way, dressing in a certain way, etc etc that at times attracts those words in a manner that of course I do not in any way support. Slut shaming and so on is appalling.

But is there a need for a word (for both sexes) that covers sexual behaviour that is deliberately harmful to others? Because if there is, I can't think of any alternatives.

We have words for positive behaviour and people. Kind, thoughtful, courageous, hero and heroine.

We have words for negative behaviour and people. Cruel, liar, murderer, mugger.

Assuming that we need these labels (and I think we do need a vocabulary that covers these things), do we need a label for sexually harmful behaviour/people?

Those who deliberately infect others with STDs?
Those who have affairs?

Which gets to why I was thinking about this. My ex had an affair. At the time (to him) I referred to her as 'your slag' and 'your slut' and her name in my head is still simply 'Slag': it has become her identity for me. Yes I know he is the one who cheated on me. There are words to cover his actions at the time: cheat; liar; manipulative; deceitful; disloyal; etc etc etc. She did not cheat, she did not lie to me, she did not manipulate me, she did not deceive me, she was not disloyal to me. These same words cannot apply to her or her behaviour. Yet she displayed 'negative' behaviour in that she knew what the situation was, and I don't think many of us support the idea that it's ok to sleep with a married man. So what words are there for this behaviour/person, if I can't use slut/slag? When I use them here, I'm not being anti-women, I'm describing the behaviour of one woman. But I am uncomfortable with those words because of the way they are usually used to attack women who aren't doing anything wrong.

Are there any alternatives? Am I wrong in thinking we need a vocabulary to express that sexual behaviour can be wrong? Should we never judge another woman for her sexual behaviour?

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Bifauxnen · 01/05/2014 13:38

Slur = slut, slash = slag. My kindle went rogue feminist on me.

Bifauxnen · 01/05/2014 13:36

I think it's ultimately self defeating to throw around words like slur and slash. They're words that hurt all of us in the long run, regardless of our individual behaviour. I agree with the suggestions like amoral, lacking integrity etc.

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 01/05/2014 13:28

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kentishgirl · 01/05/2014 13:20

Oh yes, plenty of words for him.

But without using slut or slag - what word is there for her behaviour?

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BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 01/05/2014 13:18

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KoalaFace · 01/05/2014 13:11

I'm sorry about what your ex did OP Sad

I always try and stay away from words like slut and slag. But I'd refer to anyone sleeping with a married man as a nasty shit piece of work.

Seriously though any word to describe that particular sort of behaviour would be misappropriated to use on women in general. Like bitches, whores, sluts... We're better off without adding more of these words into the mix I think!