Judges comments on sexual assault/rape

Thanks for the link. Blaming a 12 year old for being raped is about as low as it can possibly get.

Good, thanks!

Looks like the AG is going to look at this one. Here's an excellent article from New Statesman which makes mention of it.

A 17 year old doesn't know the difference between a 12 year old and a 16 year old? Fuck off. Rapist piece of shit.

12 year olds are generally desperate to go out and get laid aren't they? To the point of getting themselves drunk and lying about their age.I'll be writing in.

I wonder if the judge gave a nanosecond's thought to the damage the caused to the girl's future by not only being raped but then treated as though that was a minor matter

God, are you serious lemonmuffin?

Of course it matters what he looks like - like NeedAdvice says, if he were a young black man with a promising career, I don't think your average judge would be quite so reluctant to damage it by sending him to prison.

It can make a difference to how you are perceived.

what does it matter what he looks like, AskBasil?

I'm guessing he has offended in the past.

People don't tend to go from completely normal to rapist in a single bound.

Yes quite, Needadvice.

I'm sure that if you're accused of rape, looking like an Obergruppenfuhrer is probably looked fairly kindly upon.

It's not like it was a couple if years difference say they were at school together and consensual like wen I was 15 bf 16 that sort if thing age 12 is a child !! He will have got off lightly because he's 17 I think over 18 would have been different . But what 17 yr old would be interested in a 12 year old kid ?? Bet he reoffends in the future

Sadly AskBasil my guess is that his appearance helped quite a bit. I wonder if a Black young man would have been given the same sentence.

Doesn't make it any easier to raise a son when they are told that being good at PE means they can stick their dick wherever they like.

Something I've noticed from the comments in this story is the 'but she consented' angle of the RAs. There is no acknowledgement that had she been 16, being driven into the arse end of arse by someone with greater physical strength and does not make for a situation where refusal to consent is free. Consent through fear is not consent. Consent through coercion is not consent.

I love the way that writing to the Attorney General is now considered vigilante justice if you're a rape apologist.

Mind you, the defence that he checked her age thoroughly but she set up this elaborate web of lies to entrap him is interesting. Plays right into the female = deceitful trope, and also into the weird idea that there are gangs of marauding under age girls duping unsuspecting men into sex. I imagine this plays into the err... victim's sense that they are just that attractive, but really it makes them look like predators who've absorbed some myths about teenagers which aren't really very true.

Interesting that the comments on that last link have shown how disgusted people are by the judge's decision and that they have pointed out the error of a rapist posting his own comments in which he excuses his behaviour and blames his victim. I hope there is a review and I am going to send the screen grabs to the Attourney General.

Interestingly, his athletics club's code of conduct from athletes specifically says that the athletes "Avoid swearing and abusive language and irresponsible behaviour including behaviour that is
dangerous to yourself or others, acts of violence, bullying, harassment and physical and sexual abuse"

Code of Conduct

Surely they now have to drop him as a participant? Presumably being on the sex ofender's register must also preclude him from taking part in activities with young 12 year old girls?

The comments he made are here

Careful though, people who think that convicted rapists should be handed down proper sentences are misandrists. I wonder if the jerk on there would think the same if it was his 12 year old daughter who had been raped?

Qualified in 1969, hmmm. Wonder if he has connections with PIE.

So even a proven, true complaint of rape isn't anything to be ashamed of, all the girl's fault. Contrary to the image that MRAs give about how an allegation ruins lives.

I've emailed my complaint in. I'll also tag it on my Facebook page. What an utter utter bastard. He admitted he knew how old she was ffs, and has since denied it. He is trying to convince himself and others that he's the victim.

"“, there was no "rape" in my eyes at the time (me being a young, immature boy) believed this to be full lawful activity."

You were seventeen, dickwad. She was twelve. Who was the "young, immature" child, exactly?

How did he get away with that when she's under 13?

There is no justice system in this country for rape and sexual assault.