Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Please help me clarify my thoughts around this Mother's Day Assembly...

64 replies

CranberryCookie · 28/03/2014 22:29

I'm a longterm lurker... need some advice...

I'm very much of the opinion that I should save my complaints to the kids' primary school for important things (I don't want to become "that mum") and it's mostly a good school.

But today has enraged me: Mother's Day Assembly, in a month where there seems to be something every week that I have to attend school for. It was at 2pm, finished by 2.30pm, and school pickup isn't until 3.25pm! So an extra 90 minutes out of my working day for a half hour assembly! But it's ok because they provided tea and coffee after so I could gossip with the other mums for an hour Hmm (never mind that I work for myself and am basically losing money while I'm standing there). Can you imagine them doing that for a Father's Day Assembly (and I'm pretty sure there isn't a Father's Day Assembly).

I know I'm being a bit bah humbug - it was sweet - an event where each class in infant school sang a song or said a poem, but it just rubbed me up the wrong way. The song my son's class sang included the line "She may not have a degree, but she helps me with my homework, and that's what matters to me."

Actually, I do have a degree, as do lots of mums at the school (and the kids don't even get homework in infants!).

I just feel it's sending the kids the wrong message. Mum's time isn't important, Mum doesn't have any qualifications, being a wonderful mum is all you need to aspire to if you're a girl...

I really want to take it up with the head, perhaps informally as he's often standing on the school gates, but am I being a bit OTT?

I could do with some help to clarify my thoughts before I approach the head...

OP posts:
New posts on this thread. Refresh page
UptoapointLordCopper · 04/04/2014 12:34

The lyrics fill me with rage! It is not the image I have of myself as a person and it is not an image I wish anyone to have of me. Angry

whatdoesittake48 · 04/04/2014 11:24

These are obnoxious lyrics - Mum is either stressed out and shouty or cooking and cleaning.

this is written by someone who didn't actually like their Mum or enjoy being a Mum.

I think the cleaning and cooking comments are actually worse than the degree comments.

Essentially it says Mums are a bit stupid, suitable for household chores and always grumpy and tired - but hey, they love you...

Limelight · 03/04/2014 20:19

I've come across this song too. It's bloody irritating frankly. So for your full reading pleasure, here are the full lyrics:

My mum’s one in a million, I’m sure that you would agree.
I wouldn’t say that she’s perfect, But she’s the best one for me. Sometimes she can get grumpy, And sometimes she gets upset,
But I still know that she loves me, And that I’ll never forget!

CHORUS
Oh! This is a Mother’s Day song for you. Mum, you’re ever so special and I’m Gonna find ways to say I love you too!

My mum’s ever so clever, She may not have a degree,
But she can help with my homework And that’s what matters to me. Sometimes she can be stressy, Sometimes even she shouts!
But I still know that she loves me, And that’s what certainly counts!

CHORUS

My mum’s really an angel, She’s great at caring for me.
She does the cleaning and shopping, And makes a wonderful tea! Sometimes she is too busy, Sometimes she is worn out,
But I still know that she loves me, And that’s what this is about!

CHORUS x 2

My mum’s one in a million,
I’m sure that you would agree.
I wouldn’t say that she’s perfect, But she’s the best one for me.

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 01/04/2014 10:05

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

UptoapointLordCopper · 01/04/2014 09:49

Well done CranberryCookie for speaking out! Smile

funnyossity · 01/04/2014 09:35

Can't believe the utterly lame song!

CranberryCookie · 01/04/2014 09:27

I spoke to the head on Monday morning and he was clearly shocked by the words I quoted to him - he agreed with me that there were massive issues with stereotyping around that song in particular and also with the whole assembly, and it was also clear that others had spoken to him about the timings - next year it will be in the morning.

He said he would get the song lyrics from the teacher and have a read through.

How positive mawbroon - I hope that my children will be absorbing more from the fact that dh and I both work and do chores than they are from the messages they get at school.

goblinchild - I was clearing out my son's book bag and one of the notes mentioned a "special person's assembly" but then elsewhere it was called a Mother's Day assembly, so at least one person at the school tried to be sensitive.

OP posts:
mawbroon · 30/03/2014 09:49

DS1 told me about their Mothers' day assembly that they had last week. He said that the teacher was talking about how mums do all the cooking and cleaning and shopping etc etc (no song thankfully!).

DS1 (he's 8yo) said he was listening to it thinking "Dads do that stuff too, it's not fair saying that and Dads would be offended to hear this"

He said he was too shy to voice this view to anyone, but I was pleased to know that he understood that the message the assembly gave was not great. We don't even really talk about this much at home, it's just something that he's observed I guess.

edamsavestheday · 30/03/2014 09:40

Celebrating St Joseph's Day sounds v thoughtful. That song, on the other hand, is appalling!

Goblinchild · 30/03/2014 09:25

It's really a song in appreciation of the Stepford Mother.

Goblinchild · 30/03/2014 09:24

I agree that any days celebrating family can be loaded,even Christmas can be a minefield. I've often handled a tricky mother's day by enabling a child to make a card for the most significant woman in their lives, as a thank you. Likewise for Father's day. In some religious schools, they make a point of celebrating St Joseph who wasn't Jesus' biodad, but was there for him on all the occasions that a boy needs his dad.
The choice is either to be as sensitive as you can be, or to ban any and all days like this from the school.

Goblinchild · 30/03/2014 09:20

'There's not much feminist thinking in most staffrooms I visit.'

Grin
LadyBarlow · 29/03/2014 21:06

I'm a teacher & this is my first year at this particular school & the cleaning, shopping song was played in hymn practice this week-I couldn't believe it! My jaw nearly hit the ground. In the staff room not one person agreed with me, I got 'oh it's a lovely song' & people thought I was being dead stroppy
In schools' defence about timings of assemblies most schools I've worked in try & do them 1st thing or to finish 10mins before end of day- just enough time for staff to get children sorted for going home
Finishing at 2.30 & expecting you to sit around sounds mad

HumphreyCobbler · 29/03/2014 20:48

I was lucky enough to work in a school that would have hooted in derision at those words.

kim147 · 29/03/2014 20:41

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

HumphreyCobbler · 29/03/2014 20:40

I am really shocked the teachers let that through. They will be mostly women and all of them will have degrees ffs.

kim147 · 29/03/2014 20:32

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 29/03/2014 20:21

"Wow, thanks everyone! I was expecting to be told I was overreacting!"

Such is not the FWR way Smile

CranberryCookie · 29/03/2014 20:19

Wow, thanks everyone! I was expecting to be told I was overreacting!

Thanks for the link goblinchild- I missed the bit about cleaning... Grrr!

I agree I'm lucky I work for myself so I can actually make it to school events, but we're skint and it means I will make less money this month. If I didn't go my ds would be gutted so I do feel for people who don't have my flexibility.

I get the point about this kind of event being upsetting for kids without a mum, but where do you draw the line? My sister is in a same-sex relationship... Are we saying that kids shouldn't make Father's Day cards at school in case her children get upset? Surely the school just need to deal with it sensitively?

Thanks for the equal ops info Jules, I will use that when I speak to the head.

Sorry not to name check more of you- I'm on my phone...

OP posts:
WhosLookingAfterCourtney · 29/03/2014 19:36
Shock
JulesJules · 29/03/2014 18:35

I complained to the school after the MD service where my children sang that song - actually the words were even worse, it was

…she may not have a degree, but she’s clever enough for me… she cooks and cleans and makes my tea…

Shock - I said that a lot of the women in the audience did have degrees actually and I also pointed out that schools have a statutory duty under the Equality Act of 2006 to promote equality of opportunity between the sexes and to have objectives which include challenging gender stereotyping.

I have posted about this before - there's at least one thread every year on this song - and depressingly, a lot of posters say it's a lot of fuss about nothing, it's just a bit of fun blah blah. Well I disagree. I think the 5-9 year olds will take it at face value and the clear message is women do not need to be educated.

WhentheRed · 29/03/2014 18:31

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

nooka · 29/03/2014 18:17

Goblinchild linked to the lyrics earlier: images.scholastic.co.uk/assets/a/9f/8f/my-mum-lyrics-524534.pdf.

Amazingly it was written in 2002, not 1950.

My children are too old for this sort of thing now, but both dh and I would have missed being there when they were small (and dh went to more school event than me in any case) because we were working. The odd thing I found is that dd would have taken those words as truth even if they were totally at odds with her reality, just because they came from school. I can remember her telling me that mums stayed at home, couldn't be doctors type rubbish and her getting very confused when I reminder her that these things really were true. ds on the other hand never really listened and tended to disagree with everything on principle (school or home!)

BikeRunSki · 29/03/2014 17:51

It's called "My Mum's One In A Million", lyrics (and many You Tube videos) easily google able. Some of the lyrics are pretty good actually.

whatdoesittake48 · 29/03/2014 16:57

Does anyone know the name of this song or have the lyrics?

I have seen a school plays which portrayed women as mums who do little more than shop and do their makeup...but it was written by the kids themselves. that is even worse! the dads were shown as grumpy and hard on their kids...

I have a hard time convincing my kids I am intelligent - they wouldn't even question the intelligence of their dad. But I am teased when I make mistakes or told I can't do something because I wouldn't know how...

Hmmm I managed perfectly Ok before my H was around and before the kids came along. Perhaps pregnancy shrivelled my brain.

Swipe left for the next trending thread