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Put off biking.

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wizzzadora · 25/03/2014 11:46

Hello all, long time reader first time poster.

I've recently been toying with the idea of fulfilling a lifes ambition of mine and that is to learn to ride a motorcycle. I have looked into all the laws and requirements and have even put a deposit down on a little 125.

While searching for more information on riding I came across a bikers website that was both busy and had loads of information I could use.

Now the problem is I am absolutely appalled by the level of misogyny that appears to run through the biking community. One post really brought that home to me....

www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=3853062&highlight=#3853062
(I hope it's ok to link it here).

This quickly led to what can only be described as a vile torrent of abuse aimed at a woman that did nothing more than make a sensible comment. Suffice to say she was driven off the site quite quickly....

www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=287211
I know it sounds weak but I'm now very much put off going to bike meets or runs because of the obvious hatred so many seem to harbour be it overtly or secretly.

OP posts:
nobbythecat · 26/03/2014 13:13

Anyway, this is getting repetitive. To lighten the mood, here's my cat

Put off biking.
nobbythecat · 26/03/2014 13:09

Calling us arseholes is offensive and uncalled for!

It's not a way of life.

If you go to a bike meet or other such event then you'll meet people on a case by case basis, it's not a cattle market and you'd actually find that everyone is helpful and friendly at such events. It's the same at bike rallies.

Horse riding.... horse riders have a serious accident every 350 hours on average, compared to every 7500 hours on a motorcycle. That makes it 20 times more dangerous, there's plenty of information about this on the net if you're willing to consider that your opinion might be incorrect.

Bifauxnen · 26/03/2014 13:09

Opening = op. Typo.

Bifauxnen · 26/03/2014 13:08

The opening was given the advice to stay away from forums that didn't suit her at the beginning of the thread. Obviously a forum with a backdrop of misogyny isn't to their taste, just as a forum where misogyny and rudeness are looked down on won't be to some other people's taste.
Maybe just stick to the forums that suit?

newbieman1978 · 26/03/2014 13:07

I really hope you won't be put off biking OP. I'm a member of that particular forum also and whilst it is a very good source of information it is full of all the" ism's"

I know it doesn't help the situation but I hope you know that over there they tend to have a pop at anyone regarless.

I gess as a man I gloss over all the rubbish that goes on on that particual forum maybe I shouldn't? however there is plenty to dislike about things being said on MN so if we opted out of every forum that had some bad stuff on there I don't think you'd have much left!

I'd like you to know that in my experience as a biker most all the people you meet are friendly and warm people more than happy to give a helping hand or advice.

Stick to the biking and get out there and meet other biker men and women in the flesh and I'm sure you will be happy you stuck with it.

I don't know where you are in the country but there are lots of biker meeting places dotted around which I found to be lots of fun.

The more women that get involved the more the tosser men that think it is ok to be sexist and vile will be maginalised.

TheGirlFromIpanema · 26/03/2014 13:04

And your suggestion that MN has a strict moderation policy is even more laughable Grin

There are no moderators in the usual sense. Only staff at HQ who try their best to make sure that this lovely, useful, non misogynistic site is kept largely troll free. They only visit a thread if they've been asked to...

hth.

nobbythecat · 26/03/2014 13:01

People don't agree about everything, it's a fact of life!

If it was very rude then presumably other users would have been able to draw their own conclusions as to if it was rude? Are people here really that easily offended that such strict moderation is necessary?

TheGirlFromIpanema · 26/03/2014 12:59

Diddums.

I never made a personal attack though did I Confused

It was meant as more general advice tbh, nothing personal about it....

And your retort that horse riding is more dangerous than biking is laughable, on a serous note Hmm

MajorGrinch · 26/03/2014 12:58

Getting out there and meeting real people; are people who go on bike runs or go to bike meets not real people?

They are Nobby, but a lot of them are arseholes too (don't know where I get that impression).

My point was, you can ride a bike without having to endure the alleged "way of life". And by meet people, I mean't on a case by case basis when you bump into them & chat rather than turn up at a misogynistic cattle market & get thrown in at the deep end....

HTH

RowanMumsnet · 26/03/2014 12:56

@nobbythecat

So it's one rule for some people and another rule for others?

How impartial and fair!

None of the posts have been rude but now nobody can see that, that's also not fair.

It really was rude nobby

It was very rude

Honest

nobbythecat · 26/03/2014 12:55

So it's one rule for some people and another rule for others?

How impartial and fair!

None of the posts have been rude but now nobody can see that, that's also not fair.

TheGirlFromIpanema · 26/03/2014 12:53

Would that make you feel better nobby

RowanMumsnet · 26/03/2014 12:51

@nobbythecat

Having read the Talak Guidelines, presumably TheGirlFromIpanema will be banned for making a personal attack on the new members in this thread?

No, we don't go straight to banning with long-established posters who we know are generally good eggs but have been goaded beyond endurance by weirdly rude interlopers (not you).

nobbythecat · 26/03/2014 12:49

Having read the Talak Guidelines, presumably TheGirlFromIpanema will be banned for making a personal attack on the new members in this thread?

RowanMumsnet · 26/03/2014 12:46

We don't allow personal abuse or deliberately inflammatory posts - do please check out our Talk Guidelines. Breaking our TGs is what gets people deleted.

No discussion topics are verboten though (within reason)

RowanMumsnet · 26/03/2014 12:45

@nobbythecat

Why not edit the parts of their posts which aren't liked rather than deleting the whole post?

And as posts have been deleted, it would seem that everything isn't discussed here.

Cos that's not how we do it here. Soz.

nobbythecat · 26/03/2014 12:43

Why not edit the parts of their posts which aren't liked rather than deleting the whole post?

And as posts have been deleted, it would seem that everything isn't discussed here.

RowanMumsnet · 26/03/2014 12:39

[quote nobbythecat]Horse riding is more dangerous than biking.

Why are you being abusive and telling us to fuck off? We've all been polite and posted entirely reasonable messages, is it just that everyone here has to agree with each other or their messages will be deleted?

On BCF we accept and discuss everything. Is this thread considered offensive? www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=287279[/quote]

Hello

Not quite true that everyone has been reasonable or non-abusive tbh nobby - and we've banned and deleted those ones.

Welcome to MN! We discuss everything here too.

Gabriella123456789 · 26/03/2014 12:37

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nobbythecat · 26/03/2014 12:35

Horse riding is more dangerous than biking.

Why are you being abusive and telling us to fuck off? We've all been polite and posted entirely reasonable messages, is it just that everyone here has to agree with each other or their messages will be deleted?

On BCF we accept and discuss everything. Is this thread considered offensive? www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=287279

Gabriella123456789 · 26/03/2014 12:24

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TheGirlFromIpanema · 26/03/2014 12:21

To all our new friends Hmm

FUCK THE FUCK OFF TO THE FAR SIDE OF FUCK.

WHEN YOU GET THERE, FUCK OFF SOME MORE.

Just so we're clear.

OP I wouldn't start biking tbh. Mostly because the rates of death due to accident are so high.

nobbythecat · 26/03/2014 12:13

Getting out there and meeting real people; are people who go on bike runs or go to bike meets not real people?

The reason people do those things is to meet people with a common interest, when you're a biking n00b learning from more experienced motorcyclists is a very useful thing.

I like cats, therefore I meet other cat owners. Is that wrong, should I be meeting real people instead?

Gabriella123456789 · 26/03/2014 12:09

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MajorGrinch · 26/03/2014 12:03

Do you have to go on bike runs or go to bike meets? I've been riding a bike for years & it's not something that appeals. I've never understood the desire to join the "way of life" that seems to be mandatory for some people the minute they get on 2 wheels... Get out there, ride & meet real people....

If you want to ride a bike, then ride a bike - whatever level of interaction you have with other bike riders is totally up to you!

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