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More punter-excusing

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WhosLookingAfterCourtney · 18/03/2014 12:30

www.vice.com/en_uk/read/amsterdam-prostitute-diary

This article makes it sound like a glamorous lifestyle choice. Feminist-bashing, consenting adults, etc etc.

I haven't read the blog it's talking about, according to the article it's been compared to American Psycho. Says it all really!

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WhentheRed · 26/03/2014 14:43

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Baleno · 26/03/2014 13:46

@WhentheRed

Yes, we should demand more awareness campaigns to motivate people who witness exploitation to speak, while protecting their privacy. We should punish exploiters, not sex workers as a group.

How many sex worker's opinion do you need? We have sex worker's rights groups and they say the same things that Minnehaha has said.

WhentheRed · 25/03/2014 20:10

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minnehaha · 25/03/2014 19:54

Re reporting an incident to the police, I shall recount the experience of a friend of mine - she heard on the 'grape vine' of the possible exploitation of an underage girl and rang her local plod.....they brushed off her concerns as that of an older woman jealous of the 'competition'.

FloraFox · 24/03/2014 21:31

minniehaha if you have never met any women other than those like yourself, I don't put much stock in your claims to speak about the vast majority of punters. Your poss remind me of LauraLee giving evidence at the NI committee. First she claimed to be representing women in prostitutuion but after only a few questions she said she was only speaking for herself. If you are making points supposedly based on your experience and you have never encountered women who are or have been abused, have addiction problems, mental health issues or have been coerced by pimps or boyfriends then you just end up looking like you have a very narrow and not very relevant set of experiences.

WhentheRed · 24/03/2014 20:39

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CaptChaos · 24/03/2014 20:12

No, it really isn't. Unless you believe that those women's lives and stories don't count.

minnehaha · 24/03/2014 20:03

If the vast majority of punters visit women like myself and those I know and have known, then how can they know? It's a pointless argument.

CaptChaos · 24/03/2014 19:39

Odd then that we have had a couple of women like the ones described comment on the various threads. Perhaps they should be silenced for your 'happy hooker' trope to work? Maybe something really is amiss, eh?

Plus, of course, what we're more interested in is the punter's choice. I get that you chose to work as a prostitute, that you did it from a place of educational superiority, wealth and a perfect childhood. Others haven't, and the men that use prostituted women know this, and yet they still feel entitled to fuck unwilling women for money.

minnehaha · 24/03/2014 19:31

None of you know what you're talking about....I repeat - I was involved in the industry for TWENTY years, yet met none who match the picture you seem to have of the typical prostitute. Something amiss there me thinks!

grimbletart · 24/03/2014 11:07

"respectful punter" ..now there's an oxymoron.

WhentheRed · 24/03/2014 00:55

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Baleno · 24/03/2014 00:16

Interesting article, thanks.

I have read a couple of articles on that blog... Man, life is hard for punters in Amsterdam.

@Whenthered

Yes, he thinks of himself as a respectful punter:

"The girls I visit regularly are girls who I like. I enjoy their company. I'm interested in them as individuals. [...] To me, they are real people who deserve respect."

He comes across as an articulate and sensitive guy, so I see no reason to doubt him.

EEatingSoupForLunch · 19/03/2014 08:54

Wow that's pretty vile. "The girls have honed man management skills"? So a London Underground official is more likely to be assaulted? How deluded. When is right, women are things for his pleasure to him. Grim.

WhentheRed · 18/03/2014 15:50

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Linguini · 18/03/2014 15:44

I am so glad he didn't say "But I always really makes sure she enjoys herself as much as I do" (delusional punt) and at least he is honest that it is about his gratification and nothing deeper than that (deranged punt).

Not so psycho as fairly honest actually!

It's the men who believe 'the girlfriend experience' is more than just an act that you need to worry about.

WhentheRed · 18/03/2014 15:42

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