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What would you say if your dh went to a lap dancing club?

190 replies

crazy88 · 16/03/2014 09:02

This is a hypothetical question but dh is away this weekend and I just have a sneaking suspicion that he may have done this, mainly because of which friends he has gone with, one of whom I know has used prostitutes on more than one occasion.

I am not suggesting for a minute that he would do this, or be unfaithful, or actually pay for a lap dance (he would feel too embarrassed!) but he would go along if other people were going to a club.

From a feminist point of view, what would you say? I need something suitably withering and fact based as I am feeling frazzled and stressed from looking after our 3 ds's all weekend whilst trying to get house ready for guests this week Confused Angry

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bigdog888 · 16/04/2014 20:04

Oh and these people are not pillars of the community btw just normal 'nice' law abiding citizens.

bigdog888 · 16/04/2014 20:02

No capt I said that some women for whom it would be a deal breaker have OHs who go/have been to lap dancing clubs (and I don't just mean on this thread but in life in general.) I actually know some FFS!

CaptChaos · 16/04/2014 20:00

Thou rather sad about that.

Will make similar offers of endless damnation to others to see if they're up for it.

Totes for the lulz though, innit.

CaptChaos · 16/04/2014 19:59

bigdog no, you said that men married to/in relationships with women who would be most anti lapdancing. That those men then lie about going so that their partners don't find out. That you are certain that those of us who have stated that it would be a deal breaker have partners who have been to lapdancing clubs and that they collude with their friends to lie to us. Nice, intelligent, well educated men who are kind, generous and otherwise upstanding members of the community don't go to lap dancing clubs, because you can't be those things and be a misogynistic twat at the same time.

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 16/04/2014 19:57

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bigdog888 · 16/04/2014 19:55

I dunno to be honest, I really fail to see the attraction! They seem to love it though!

BriarRainbowshimmer · 16/04/2014 19:52

Why would generally nice, intelligent, well educated men who are kind, generous and otherwise upstanding members of the community go to stripclubs? Unless they're secret misogynists.

bigdog888 · 16/04/2014 19:44

Well, if you met them and didn't know they like lap dancing you'd think they were nice, kind and generous (you know what I mean)

Grennie · 16/04/2014 19:38

Men who go to lap dancing clubs are not nice, kind and generous men. They are scum.

bigdog888 · 16/04/2014 19:31

Capt I'm not suggesting for a minute that all men lie about their visits. If you read my post you'll see that they're really not my bag (I just can't see how it's enjoyable) - the funny thing is though my DW has no issue with me going so I have no reason to lie to her. I'm just sharing my experiences (and these are generally nice, intelligent, well educated men who are kind, generous and otherwise upstanding members of the community)

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 16/04/2014 19:09

Yy Grennie. Which is why it's always annoying when some visitor arrives and says "ha! But hardly any police raids found trafficked women! So the sex trade is a Ok."

Err, no.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 16/04/2014 19:07

Yy

Grennie · 16/04/2014 18:59

I actually don't care about figures. I can't see how anyone would think lapdancing is not exploitative of women.

FloraFox · 16/04/2014 18:57

figures from a blog - how authoritative.

slithytove · 16/04/2014 18:15

Thanks snatch
I miss Lilly :(

Thouneedsbedamned · 16/04/2014 17:27

It's not the same Capt Sad

She was so right about everything I couldn't possibly accept damnation from anyone else.

Thanks though Hun Wink

CaptChaos · 16/04/2014 17:08

Thou I'm happy to damn you to hell if it will make you happy?

I sadly missed the biblical vomiting on the thread.

Oh, and bigdog I know exactly whether or not my DH has been to a lap dancing club thanks. Just because you wouldn't be honest, please don't project. LOL

Thouneedsbedamned · 16/04/2014 17:00

I just love making other people lol snatch

My "friend" hasn't come back to damn me to hell yet. Pity. Sad

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 16/04/2014 14:49

I thought this thread was shaping up to be a waste of pixels, but then rosa, slithy and thou genuinely made me, err, LOL.

sausageeggbacon11 · 16/04/2014 14:36

Grennie the article referring to the Lilith report is out of date. Eaves removed Lilith from their website about 10 months ago and even Object have now removed it. In fact figures from a blog show that over 12 years (longer than the 3 chosen years that were originally used) rape fell. This was also compared to Wandsworth that lost striptease and saw rape go up.

bigdog888 · 16/04/2014 13:00

The reality in my experience is that about 25% of the men in the groups I've been on stags etc with aren't really into lap dancing and will maybe just go in for a drink and a chill out or maybe just go back to the hotel. The rest are pretty much mad for it and will spend quite a lot of time and money in these places. The lads most up for it are the ones whose OHs would be the most anti lap dancing. The simple truth is that the OHs never find out and any questions about visiting these kind of places are simply denied. I'm in the 'not for me' camp btw! I'm absolutely certain that some of the LTB camp have OHs who have done this kind of thing but you will simply never find out. A lot of what goes on will never leave the group that was there - not even to other good friends etc.

Greensleeves · 16/04/2014 01:21

I'd say "pack your shit and fuck off"

Joylin · 16/04/2014 01:11

I wouldn't care if he went or if he got a lapdance. I'd ask if he had a good time, that's it.

Grennie · 15/04/2014 17:40

The realities of lap dancing clubs

www.theguardian.com/world/2008/mar/19/gender.uk

I would leave my DP, a total total deal breaker

peggyundercrackers · 14/04/2014 13:26

buffy she reckoned there were 4 types of people went to the clubs she worked in.

  1. the guys on a boys night out - smallish groups of men who go in for a bit before they go to a club - they go in have a few drinks, some get a dance or 3 and then they move onto a nightclub full of bravado.
  1. the ones who go in because in because there is absolutely no chance of a fight and there isnt all the dickhead people in there that would be in a nightclub. In the club she worked in drunks didnt get served, they would be turfed out and there was absolutely no trouble whatsoever.
  1. the letches - they would go and get turned on etc. and generally letch over girls
  1. the rest were just ordinary blokes who thought it was a chance to see naked woman(yes that sounds juvenile), not all the men had private dances though. They had a stage at one end of the room/club where each girl would take a turn to get up on it and do her thing and she would normally get naked by the end of a dance for a short period of time and a lot of blokes would just watch this while they were chatting/drinking etc.

She also thought a few people didnt mind their men going there instead of a night club because it was safer in terms of their men behaving themselves. In lapdancing clubs there is generally no drunk girls/woman wandering about who were half dressed like you see in nightlcubs so there was less chance of their men cheating on them once they had their beer goggles on.