Active discussions

Please or to access all these features

Talk
Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Feminism: chat

Original poster

Sports activity for women - Burlesque?!

86 replies

Hawkmoth · 08/03/2014 12:07

This has really pissed me off.

Lets get women into sport by er... Getting them to discover their "sultry side" and pander to porn-led notions of attractiveness. I'm so annoyed.

OP posts:
EatShitDerek · 08/03/2014 17:39

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

EatShitDerek · 08/03/2014 17:39

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

BeerTricksPotter · 08/03/2014 17:37

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

ChocolateSnowflakes · 08/03/2014 17:37

Goblin I guess that's the tipping point there though. If she's using it as a job to pay her way through college, it becomes less of a choice and more of a necessity. It suggests that she feels that the only way she can get through college is to use her body for entertainment. However, if she chose to do that despite having the option of another job that could also pay her way through college, I wouldn't see any issue. It was entirely her choice and not something that she felt that she had to do.

That's what I think anyway. There is a lot of grey area when it comes to things like that though.

EatShitDerek · 08/03/2014 17:36

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

BriarRainbowshimmer · 08/03/2014 17:33

I thought feminism was about choice?

It's about freeing women from patriarchal opression. We have gotten more choices as a result of feminist activism however, like being able to have abortions, not marry, vote etc

That comic was beyond stupid - the artist has taken feminist critique of sexist, oppressive ideals invented by men as oh no the feminists are telling women they can't be naked or wear burqas! Stupid feminists telling women how to act! Men never do that! They didn't come up with obligatory burqa's for women, for example! No it's all about women's choice...!

EatShitDerek · 08/03/2014 17:25

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Goblinchild · 08/03/2014 17:24

Thank you, that's the first clear answer I've had. The tipping point has never made sense to me, that if it's OK for women to choose to dance and twerk and strip, then why is it suddenly exploitation to be paid for it?
Why are the same women that support a woman's right to do what she likes with her own body in the dancing field uncomfortable with the idea of students using it as a job to pay their way through college?

ChocolateSnowflakes · 08/03/2014 17:17

Grin I'll take that as a yes then, Turnip.

Why wouldn't it be OK Goblin? You said yourself, she "chooses" to take it into paid entertainment.

EatShitDerek · 08/03/2014 17:16

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

ArtetasSwollenAnkle · 08/03/2014 17:16

Flippin' 'eck, isn't it obvious? It's all for the benefit of men!!

'I Will If You Will' is a movement to get us ladies of Bury moving. It's about getting together, trying something new and having a laugh while we do it. So how about it? Join in online and get all the latest news and gossip, as well as keeping up to date with what's going on near you and how to get involved.

Good God - if you were all white metropolitan elite professionals, you'd understand. Simple northerners...

Goblinchild · 08/03/2014 17:16

Is this a Third wave meets Second wave thing?

Goblinchild · 08/03/2014 17:15

But if the woman on the left chooses to take the bump and grind and sultry Burlesque into a paid entertainment role to use her new skill, is that OK too?
If she feels that lap dancing is like a good night out, with extra pay, would you say that was not a good choice?

EatShitDerek · 08/03/2014 17:14

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

TunipTheUnconquerable · 08/03/2014 17:13

Oh fuck off.

ChocolateSnowflakes · 08/03/2014 17:11

Turnip You seem very judgemental tbh. Did you take a look at Widow's link? Here it is for you, just in case: amandapalmer.tumblr.com/post/78284674113/rosalarian-feminism-is-having-a-wardrobe Does the woman in the middle remind you of yourself at all?

ChocolateSnowflakes · 08/03/2014 17:09

Is there something wrong with bumping and grinding then, Turnip? I'm still confused as to what the actual issue is here...

TunipTheUnconquerable · 08/03/2014 17:09

I'll leave you to it, ladies. Enjoy your mother-and-daughter bumping and grinding lessons.

TunipTheUnconquerable · 08/03/2014 17:07

It's billed as an 'exercise' activity so I think complaining that the word 'sport' wasn't used is rather splitting hairs.

EatShitDerek · 08/03/2014 17:06

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

TunipTheUnconquerable · 08/03/2014 17:06

The ad actually talks about learning to 'bump and grind'.

ChocolateSnowflakes · 08/03/2014 17:05

Turnip if I didn't want my 14YO doing an activity, I wouldn't let her go.

That doesn't seem to be what the OPs issue was though. It was about sports activity for women, not about it being available to 14YOs.

TunipTheUnconquerable · 08/03/2014 17:03

You'd all be cool with your 14 year old daughters doing this then?

Pointeshoes · 08/03/2014 17:03

I would love to do that. Don't think we would get any classes near us!

TunipTheUnconquerable · 08/03/2014 17:02

Loadsofthingstodo, under the third green tick it says, 'Why Should I? Bring out your sultry side, boost your self confidence and learn a new skill'.

Perhaps a good idea to read the link before you suggest the OP is imagining things.