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What would you do if a university student wanted to bring her newborn to class?

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camaleon · 21/01/2014 17:04

That is really. I have to make a decision regarding this. I need advice. I want to accommodate this student as much as possible but I am very aware of disrupting other students' learning experience.
What would you do?

OP posts:
HereIsMee · 21/01/2014 17:36

I don't think it's a problem with a young baby. All she needs to do is sit near an exit in case it cries or needs changing.

annieorangutan · 21/01/2014 17:35

None of the students on my course used changing facilities as you dont actually need them. I have been in lectures with breastfeeding mums as well. My course was an all female course so we could do what we wanted, and all the mums on it didnt take any time out just because they had a baby. Thats the way it should be.

StealthPolarBear · 21/01/2014 17:35

How long for? Because whatever the arguments for bringing a newborn are (and I tend to agree) will all be pointless in 3 months or so

Procrastreation · 21/01/2014 17:35

I think you're overthinking this. The mum in question will have her own comfort level on things like bf and nappies - and I'm sure she'll investigate & plan accordingly. The neutral assumption would be to nappy change in the loo and breastfeed anywhere she likes.

5madthings · 21/01/2014 17:34

well as an adult that is your issue tbh frog you should be able to cope with a baby in near vicinity without being so distracted. yes they are cute and lovely but come on!

SantanaLopez · 21/01/2014 17:34

As a one off, sure, but I think a regular thing is taking the piss.

lilyaldrin · 21/01/2014 17:34

So long as she is happy to step out if the baby is unsettled, I can't possibly see the issue Confused

"Someone might be distracted by the baby's mere presence" is a pretty rubbish reason.

5madthings · 21/01/2014 17:32

peterparker my uni didnt have changing facilities but they quickly put some in as i had my ds1 and a few mature students started and their partners had babies plus lecturers with kids etc.

i changed ds1 on a bench (with a mat) and one person complainef. i pointed out there were no facilities anywhere and they were installed pretty quick.

the university also had a nursery used by staff and students, it still does. ds1 is 14 now and we still go to campus to walk around the lake and reminise re student days.

students with babies/children is not that unusual now i would expect most places to have somewhere they could change a nappy.

camaleon · 21/01/2014 17:32

I will report back.
No, there are no breastfeeding/changing rooms, etc. at University. Which I find is incredible taking into account many of our female students would not feel comfortable breastfeeding in public. I have a real issue with the Health & Saftey policies justifying policies that in practice involved discriminating women and access of women to education (particularly those with less resources).
I have suffered this myself as a breatfeeding mother in the UK. The irony of it all is that the University has a nursery (!!!) so it is actually impossilbe to implement a 'no-child policy' on campus.
But that is another story all together

OP posts:
Procrastreation · 21/01/2014 17:31

Frog - I hear you - but that's a weak reason to bar the baby's mother from completing her module.

I'm sure the 'distracting' argument was trotted out when women started to attend universities.

Peter changing facilities are really not such a big deal. I easily nappy change in a regular cubicle. But - FWIW - my uni does have changing facilities.

kelda · 21/01/2014 17:30

I wouldn't worry too much about baby changing facitilies - I had a fold up changing mat in my bag that went on the floor.

MissMilbanke · 21/01/2014 17:29

I did a part time degree and one woman did just this .

Wasn't a problem for anybody - but this was a loooong time ago

Sirzy · 21/01/2014 17:29

We are allowed to take children in with us if needed. Its not allowed as a regular thing and they have to be kept occupied (if older obviously!) and not allowed to disrupt the lecture.

The only time we have been asked not to is when the lecture was talking about sexual abuse as it wasn't appropriate (again wouldn't be an issue for newborn)

annieorangutan · 21/01/2014 17:29

We were allowed to if needed. Its how I passed with a 2.1 with only 10 days maternity leave. We had a few people in our class do it Our course was all women though so its much more of a normal occurence.

frogwatcher42 · 21/01/2014 17:28

I was put off by the baby 5madthings. I couldn't stop watching it and all my instincts wanted to play with its fingers!!!!! Funnily enough after the meeting a male colleague couldn't remember a thing about what was said and all he could talk about was how the baby looked so like one of his dds as a newborn!! I think we all ended up watching the baby and listening to its little grunts and watching its stretches and smiling to ourselves.

The meeting was pointless really - no one concentrated!!!

Thats why I think it is distracting.

HannahG315 · 21/01/2014 17:27

Please could you let us know how it goes? I had to defer my university place in 2013 after finding out I was pregnant. Hoping to go in 2014, worried about child care.

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PeterParkerSays · 21/01/2014 17:27

Our university has no changing facilities for a baby, does yours? Just something else for her to consider in case there's a poonami.

funnyvalentine · 21/01/2014 17:26

I wouldn't mind a newborn as they mainly sleep and feed, though older babies can be far more distracting. Read this yesterday

theconversation.com/women-at-work-should-be-able-to-breastfeed-and-succeed-22150

OneHolyCow · 21/01/2014 17:26

My friend had a baby going through teacher training college. I looked after her 2 other boys and she took the newborn to class. Never an issue, it was like Procrastreation said, no hassle. Let her take the baby. If it doesn't work out, I'm sure you can talk.

Procrastreation · 21/01/2014 17:25

Btw - one thing I did once (#veteran )- was ask one of my friends to babysit in the coffee shop next door. He was a bit scared, but I literally left him in charge of a buggy with sleeping DS in it. I expected him to sleep for 2 hours, my meeting was 1 hours - but he had instructions to text if he woke. It went very smoothly - but DS was about 2 or 3 at the time - so more disruptive when awake but also more predictable when asleep.

CailinDana · 21/01/2014 17:25

I think meetings are a different matter. In lectures everyone faces front and will hardly know the baby is there.

kelda · 21/01/2014 17:24

I've been in lectures with a baby. They were no problem. I've also known lecturers to give a lecture with a small baby in tow - not in the UK where maternity leave tends to be longer - in some countries maternity leave is just a few weeks.

As long as the baby is not crying, I don't see the problem.

5madthings · 21/01/2014 17:24

frog if people are put off by a sleeping baby that is their problem.

and yes ronzulli took her baby into european parliament, until she was quite big i think.

CailinDana · 21/01/2014 17:23

I can't see how it would be a problem. I used to go to special parent and baby cinema screenings with baby ds and even with a roomful of babies and the film at a low volume it was absolutely fine.
I would say yes on condition I could sniff the baby's head and grab it for a cuddle. Blush .
A newborn cry sounds loud to the mother but in fact it's a very thin sound.

frogwatcher42 · 21/01/2014 17:23

My colleague thought her baby was no trouble. And it truly wasnt - slept through the meetings no problem.

The trouble was it distracted people. They didnt relax the same in truth.

If its only one or two lectures I think it would be ok though. I reread ops posts and it seems as if it is only for a short time.

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