is there and 'official' feminist view on prostitution? and what is it?

why should sex work be considered any different from burger flipping?

Mostly because consent within sex is necessary and lack of consent within the act sexual congress is called rape. Rape is a crime. Consent cannot be bought if it is to be considered not to be coerced. Coerced consent is no consent at all when considered ethically.

Why do all men who come on to FWR to tell the silly feminists why they should allow men to buy them or rape them or whatever resort to the comparison between prostitution and working flipping burgers? Do they seriously believe that women's lives are akin to slabs of meat?

That was rhetorical btw, I know that the type of men who makes that comparison sees themselves as having a right to women's bodies, because they only see women as slabs of meat to be used. Just once I wish one of these men would come and actually use his brain to think with for a change.

"Why should sex work be considered any different to burger flipping?"

Would you consider selling your orifices for money the same as working at mcdonalds?

What other feminist issues concern you, OP?

The day women listen to a (so called) 19yo callow youth pontificate on the position of women in a male-centric society is the day I hang up my monkey boots and turn up my toes permanently

OP isn't here to listen to anyone's answers to his question. That much is obvious.

I'd be interested in his answers to some of the questions he's been asked though - he's conveniently ignored them so far - in favour of his own pontificating.

This subject has been rehashed many, many times on this board. I suggest you read the threads WhentheRed linked to above before persisting with the repeated questioning. Much less tedious for all concerned.

Or you could try having the courtesy to answer some of the questions which have been put to you by PPs.

Here's another: do you yourself pay prostituted women to have sex with you? Your posts sound like an exercise in self-justification and entitlement.

I think you are conflating various possible usages of the word "class".

If you genuinely did not know that, I think you will find it challenging to consider this or any other all societal issue adequately.

If you are saying it to provoke, why?

OP, as you're only 19 you can be forgiven for a certain degree of ignorance, but you clearly need to do a lot more reading and learning. "Class" in this context refers to the classification of "female", not social class. HTH.

ok, that may well be the case but how about the 'freedom of the woman to choose' , IOW - Freedom of Choice?

Being 'free to choose' to either eat shit or die is not freedom, its a false choice. Meaningful 'freedom of choice' is dependant on the level of empowerment an individual possesses and can exercise in their choice. For example the reason why many countries mandate a liveable minimum wage is to prevent employers exploiting workers. Otherwise employers could happily espouse the 'freedom of choice' for their workers to choose to work while they paid them slave wages.

In terms of prostitution a small minority of women in it would probably be 'free', that is to say possessing a reasonable level of empowerment in their personal choice- but I would think most would not. I suspect that many would be driven to cling to/believe in the notion of their 'personal freedom of choice and empowerment' as a means to survive the psychological trauma of the job- even as it ate away at them.

I see the OP has bumped a page 3 thread as well.

Ok OP, you believe it's the feminist thing to do to have the freedom in place for men to buy access to women's orifices and to see their bare breasts in a newspaper, even though "woman has breasts" is hardly news.

What other freedoms for men women and girls do you care about and advocate, as a young man interested in feminism?

ok, that may well be the case but how about the 'freedom of the woman to choose' , IOW - Freedom of Choice?

She need not sell her body if she does not wish to.

There already IS a choice, and to choose it would be illegal. If you make it legal, more woman who aren't financially sound will inevitably be faced with the decision of doing "honest work" on their back, feeling they have no other choice. Soul-sucking stuff that they do to support their family.

At the same time, do you agree or disagree with freedom to choose an abortion or not?

Because that begs the next question - why can a woman not choose to sell sexual favors, but CAN have her fetus terminated?

Different matter altogether. If a woman profited from an abortion then that too would be wrong.

Here's the deal (as I see it). You are saying that it should be made legal for a woman to sell herself for a mans pleasure (or vice-versa). I assume you're thinking about woman who enjoy it and feel it's empowering and all that. You're ignoring the women who will feel forced to do it because they see no other way (selling their body but poisoning their mind because it's not really what they want to do. Going home hating themselves and feeling dirty). The young women who reach adulthood (or lie about their age) because it's "easy money".

You're forgetting that often there IS no choice, not completely. Not about what they're asked to do (there may be limits of course). Not about what type of person they're sleeping with (old, young, fat, skinny). Come the end of the night and they haven't made "enough" money for their their boss (or their own limit, or their partner who expects them to earn X amount per night) they will sleep with whoever or do whatever, all in the name of money.

You're imagining the good (two people who are attracted to each other having sex) and forgetting about the bad.

Making all aspects of prostitution legal implies a legal position that men have a right to sex, whenever they want it, as long as they can pay for it. I think this is a dangerous step back in the fight for equality for women. My opinion is based on the ethical argument that consent which is paid for is not true consent, which has lead me to believe that the 'consenting adults' part of the pro-decriminalisation lobby's argument is a bit of a red herring.

Curiously, in countries where prostitution is perfectly free and legal, there are just as many, if not more trafficked women in the trade as in countries where it is illegal. Can these women really be said to be consenting? Can poor or addicted women be?

I am not in any way freaky about sex, and I resent the implication that anyone who has concerns about the safety and well-being of prostituted women must be a frustrated and repressed harridan which gets bandied about a lot on these types of threads. The OP asked his question in the FWR area of MN, presumably because he was being honest in wanting to find out a feminist view of the issues, just because there isn't a single school of thought about the subject within the umbrella of feminism, doesn't mean that feminist viewpoints shouldn't be foremost on this thread. Had he wanted a general view, I'm sure he would have posted elsewhere on the site.

I have no wish to silence anyone's voice, I am not whorephobic, if a woman has freely chosen to prostitute herself and there are no middle men, no pimps, no agencies and she would freely consent to having sex with the men she sells herself to, even without money changing hands, then there is no problem at all. I just believe that the numbers of that type of sex worker are vanishingly small, and that the majority deserve legal protection.

Yeah, I hate this current "silence sex workers" because it's "all in their own good". Ffs, let adults make their own decisions.

Buying and selling of sex is legal between consenting adults indoors in the UK (as long as indoor establishment is not a brothel).

And why the debate over whether x or y labels themself as a "feminist" or not? It is just a label, and I would have thought one's own experience would count for more.

But for what it's worth Laura Lee has claimed to be a feminist.

Ok, I am over 50 yo, I have dc and dgc. I have identified as "feminist" since I was about 16. But because you're a bit frealy about sex....

Um, no, OP asked if there was a standard feminist response. Answer, no, there isn't, so why not listen to actual sex workers?