Beyonce/ Jay Z reference to Tina turner's domestic abuse in music video

Sinister - that's what I don't get: all this stuff about 'self-identifying' (have I got that right?) as a feminist. Does it just mean: I can behave how I want and say what I want because if I say I'm a feminist then it's OK?

I have the same issue with Miley Cyrus by the way. All that crap about how feminist it is to take her clothes off at every God-given opportunity and stick her tongue out.

Beyonce and Jay Z are a fine example of a couple completely surrounded by yes people and a pair of over rich knob ends as a result. Mind you they both have form what with her singing about "put a ring on it" (shame she didn't put a sock in it) and him having lots of problems but no "bitches".

I'm impressed that the Mirror has a feminist article in it. And slightly stunned.

LeBear I think Beyonce does consider herself a feminist. She is empowered, you see, and lovin her sexuality. Can you tell I don't think much of that perspective - it just seems like a mealy mouthed way of saying I'm not a manpleaser just because I spend most of my time pleasing men. But other people disagree.
And JayZ had a major feminist consciousness raising moment last year when his daughter was born. He is no longer going to call women bitches and hos as they are all someones daughter. Wait I minute while I swoon and sink to my knees before his crotch

Why is anyone surprised? Is Beyonce known for being outspoken in defence of women's rights?

Genuine question, not a sarky one - I know very little about her but what I do know revolves around her spending a lot of time singing and dancing in her underwear and being married to some rapper who doesn't seem to be a poster boy for feminism.

So I could understand the outrage if this were, say Germaine Greer or Andrea Dworkin, but Beyonce? Isn't her bottom line basically, how much attention can I get and how much money can I make?

That is pretty bad.

But this is the woman who last week wore leather trousers and a cow print top to a vegan restaurant (her and Ike, I mean Jay Z, are being vegans for the month ).

Sad and incredibly stupid

Me too OP. I wonder why it was included- how could they possibly think it was a good idea?! Do they hate Tina Turner or what?
I've seen her been called a feminist many times since she sampled a great feminist speech on one song but then she also has this on the same album...