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When will MRAs realise that it's Misogynists who hate men, not Feminists!

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BarfaStewart · 15/11/2013 09:37

I was thinking about this again last night.

Feminists believe that men are not genetically programmed to rape, abuse, hurt, cheat or oppress.

Feminists believe that men are responsible for their own actions, and capable of behaving decently and treating others equally.

It's the Misogynists who assume that they can't control their penises/behaviour/actions.

It's Misogynists who believe women should manage their own behaviour to avoid triggering some genetic fuckwittery.

So, why is it that Feminists are painted as man-haters, and not those who actually do?

Answers on a postcard please....

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Biggedybiggedybongsoitis · 15/11/2013 12:33

while you should never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity, sufficiently obdurate stupidity is indistinguishable from malice

My new favourite quote.

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BarfaStewart · 15/11/2013 11:55

biggedy, there are certainly different types.

There are those who are very "liberal", think porn is great, and a woman should have the right to be exploited filmed having sex, it's all about equality, innit?

There are the scientists who believe that men have been providing for eons, it's in their nature, and women are naturally subservient.

There are the chauvinists, who believe that women should be treated like ladies, bless their little cotton gloves. They put women on a pedestal, but don't actually have any real respect.

There are the Whaddaboutdamenzers who get upset at all the injustices that men face (child custody is a favourite topic) but don't accept any suggestion that it's all down to the structure of a patriarchal society.

Then there are the abusers, who believe that women should know their place, and if a man has to discipline, then he should. She asked for it.

Please add your own!

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BuffytheAnyAppleFucker · 15/11/2013 11:51

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KissesBreakingWave · 15/11/2013 11:47

Having recently been introduced to the howling vortex of stupidity that is MRA, my first-approximation analysis is that they are living proof that, while you should never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity, sufficiently obdurate stupidity is indistinguishable from malice. Most of it seems to be based on the idea that you can make a problem go away by denying it exists. Or establishing that someone else is to blame. Or whatever square you need in reasoning-fallacy bingo. One can only hope that every move to a properly equal social order results in fewer of the blighters, but in my more cynical and twisted moments I'm of the view that whiny, stupid ringpieces are just a fact of the human condition. Hence the ability of the tories to get elected.

Biggedybiggedybongsoitis · 15/11/2013 11:45

Are there different kinds of MRAs, just as there are different kinds of feminists? Or are they (MRAs) all just a homogenous lump?

BuffytheAnyAppleFucker · 15/11/2013 11:16

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scallopsrmissingAnyFucker · 15/11/2013 10:31

Yes I see what Buffy was saying now - from their perspective they are perfectly reasonable, respectful people.

Blistory · 15/11/2013 10:30

They won't ever realise. Too much self interest at stake.

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BarfaStewart · 15/11/2013 10:26

scallops, true. But no-one wants to believe that they are abusive tossbuckets, do they? So they justify their own actions to themselves.

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scallopsrmissingAnyFucker · 15/11/2013 10:26

But yes Barfa totally agree with your OP.

Mind you, I think it is perfectly understandable and reasonable to hate your oppressors too. It's not as if you haven't got good reason!

scallopsrmissingAnyFucker · 15/11/2013 10:08

"But they, personally, have not done any of these things!" Not my experience on the internet or in real life of MRAs. They are normally abusive men who really don't regard or treat women very nicely at all.

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BarfaStewart · 15/11/2013 09:49

Yes, to both.

They don't understand that it's a structural problem within SOCIETY.

For the same reason that a liberal-thinker might make a rape joke, they wouldn't rape, so why shouldn't they joke about it..

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BuffytheAnyAppleFucker · 15/11/2013 09:47

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Colin1974 · 15/11/2013 09:46

Mysoginists give all of us men a bad name! Love a woman, treat her well and she will love you and care for you in return. If you hate women, marry a man.