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sad and a bit too frequent

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Andcake · 13/11/2013 16:48

a friend was discussing this in social media and i just feel really sad
www.cellularsol.co.uk/meet-the-staff

scroll to the bottom - i think its such a visual example of what happens in a lot of businesses ;-(

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TheDoctrineOfWho · 15/11/2013 13:25

There are many companies with more Davids (or possibly Pauls, or Peters, or Marks) in senior positions than women.

WaspsInTheHouse · 15/11/2013 13:05

Have people seen the All Men Tumblr? It collates staff lists with photos from webpages.

WaspsInTheHouse · 15/11/2013 12:57

Yes, it was a short post! Men overwhelmingly respond to discrimination by blaming feminism, women or feminist women, e.g. education system now "failing boys" that's the feminisation of the education system apparently, you know who's done that? White men. Just as racism is caused and perpetuated by white people, especially white men at the top, with consequences further down.

There was no joy in my exclamation of "Men!" merely exasperation that people, most often men, cannot see what is in front of their faces, like the original comment which sparked my post.

Sympathywherehaveyougone · 15/11/2013 11:02

You missed a bit Buffy...

"Now that's sorted out, pass me those CV's for that new role."

[looks through CVs]

"hmmm well let's weed out the blokes. Errr that woman's over 35 she can go, look just hand me the cute girls ok and bin the rest."

BuffytheAnyAppleFucker · 15/11/2013 09:43

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OrlandoWoolf · 15/11/2013 09:28

I think that's all the staff in the team - not middle management but all the staff.

There is a certain look and age about them. I don't know how they can't see that. I would love to hear the conversations taking place there now.

BuffytheAnyAppleFucker · 15/11/2013 09:15

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TheDoctrineOfWho · 15/11/2013 07:49

Apocalypse, it's not that different to other websites though, most I see in financial services have only men in the senior team. We are issuing a document soon and I'm the only woman named in it; it barely occurs to me so I'm sure it doesn't occur to the others. All those in the document are white.

There are no pictures though!

ApocalypseThen · 15/11/2013 07:20

It's fascinating that they looked at that page themselves (I assume) before it went live and couldn't guess how it would look.

FloraFox · 15/11/2013 07:09

Menz menz menz

TheDoctrineOfWho · 15/11/2013 07:08

You didn't say anything about feminism, but you seemed to be saying that the post by Wasps was an example of schadenfreude.

DadWasHere · 15/11/2013 01:37

It's not schadenfreude, from the second paragraph on that post, it was clear that Wasps was saying any such discrimination was not the fault of feminism.

Please show me where in my own short post I write that I think it has anything to do with feminism. I don't think anything like that.

If you want me to write it different- the sentence I quoted equates to victims disassociating themselves from victims who belong to the same segment as the perpetrators.

Its got nothing to do with feminism, even gender is unnecessary, when I lived in the US I got told: 'Yea, its black men who are being killed, you know whos doing that? Black men!' That from a white guy who had been mugged by blacks.

TheDoctrineOfWho · 15/11/2013 00:10

It's not schadenfreude, from the second paragraph on that post, it was clear that Wasps was saying any such discrimination was not the fault of feminism.

It was a short post.

DadWasHere · 14/11/2013 23:46

Even if it did show "discrimination against younger men" you know who's doing that? Men!

So? Is there some kind of distinction that invalidates discrimination within a race/age/gender segment if the discrimination is by the same segment? Other victims outside the segment like to channel the irony/humour/justice in that? Thats just a form of schadenfreude.

scallopsrmissingAnyFucker · 14/11/2013 20:01

Grin They also lie!

MistAllChuckingFrighty · 14/11/2013 18:04
Grin
Bluestocking · 14/11/2013 18:01

They've replaced the page with this text. Because hiding the truth means it isn't true any more. HmmConfused
14 Nov 2013
You may have noticed that we no longer have a ”meet the staff” page. Following a rise in visits to our website and mentions of the company through certain media channels in relation to our recruitment policy, we have chosen to remove it from the website indefinitely.
We took this decision in consultation with our staff who are rightly concerned about being posted around the internet by people making inaccurate and inappropriate comments about our staff and our recruitment policies. The “meet the staff” page was designed for our clients to put a face to the name of the people they deal with here and now that page has been taken out of context we feel it is no longer appropriate.
We are an equal opportunities employer and will remain so. We are proud of our team and remain committed to their individual development.

MistAllChuckingFrighty · 14/11/2013 17:48

And they think Feminists are pedantic and see problems where there are none !

MistAllChuckingFrighty · 14/11/2013 17:47

Them whataboutthemenzers always manage to shoe horn it in somewhere, don't they Grin

WaspsInTheHouse · 14/11/2013 11:12

Even if it did show "discrimination against younger men" you know who's doing that? Men!

I am always confused when it's feminisms fault about this, that or the other about men when it's men as a class who have the power and are making the decisions.

BuffytheAnyAppleFucker · 14/11/2013 09:33

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Andcake · 14/11/2013 09:24

Yes it looks very staged. the link on the metro is the one that I originally posted. The comments on the metro article make an interesting read as well!

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LovesBeingHereAgain · 14/11/2013 04:34

It looks like it must tge staged to look like that, that it can't be real iyswim. How sad tgat it is.

DadWasHere · 14/11/2013 04:14

I wonder what their policy on ageism is?

Same as their policy on hiring men.

TheDoctrineOfWho · 13/11/2013 23:16