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Why would you be proud to be married?

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Grennie · 03/11/2013 18:06

I am just trying to understand this from a feminist perspective. Why would a woman under patriarchy be proud to be married?

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lighthousesea · 03/11/2013 19:30

I'm not proud if being 'married'. I am however proud to be married to a wonderful man who I know is proud to call me his wife.

SunshineSuperNova · 03/11/2013 19:28

Mini, I don't see marriage as signing away my rights as an individual entity.

MiniTheMinx · 03/11/2013 19:27

I could say I'm proud of my children, they are a work in progress though and I may revise my opinion. Also, it implies that they are a project or product of my making, which to some extent they are, but are they not their own project, is it not ultimately down to them to realise their own potential.

I might be proud of my partner when he is given a promotion, but is it not his work that led to this. It isn't anything within my control. I might be proud that he is better looking than most and proud to be seen with him or feel pride that he chose me (or I him) but is that really an achievement or just good luck?

So I wonder what pride is, is pride something we have in ourselves, in others or in institutions that convey social prestige? isn't it really about social standing and social power. We feel that marriage gives us a better social standing with our peers maybe? and that kind of flies in the face of trying to achieve equality and emancipation for all.

Grennie · 03/11/2013 19:14

Yes Mini, Marriage is sold as an aspiration to girls and women. Look at all the stuff we get sold to us about our wedding day being the best day of our life.

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Grennie · 03/11/2013 19:13

Jimbo - Why are you proud to call him your Husband?

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JimbosJetSet · 03/11/2013 19:11

My husband is proud to call me his wife, he tells me every day. I also feel proud to call him my husband. But that is different to 'being proud to be married,' it sounds as though you value the piece of paper that says you are married over the actual person that is now your spouse...

MiniTheMinx · 03/11/2013 19:11

Marriage is common in the respect that historically and globally most women have married and yet it is still seen as aspirational, I wonder why?

Rentahoose · 03/11/2013 19:07

I worked in a customer care call centre once. Got a complaint from someone who had been addressed as Ms and not Mrs on an envelope.

"I'm not a Ms she said I'm married and very proud of it"

I thought it strange that she got so offended.

I'm proud of not being married though so I suppose I shouldn't be surprise of people being the other way round.

SirChenjin · 03/11/2013 19:07

Why don't you ask them then?

Grennie · 03/11/2013 19:06

Sir, a number of women said it, and I am trying to understand it from a feminist perspective. Hence I posted it here.

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SirChenjin · 03/11/2013 19:05

Why don't you just ask the person who said they were 'proud to be married'? Easier and more accurate than speculating I would have thought. The message poster button is on the right hand side of the post in question.

FamiliesShareGerms · 03/11/2013 19:05

I'm proud to be married. I am also a feminist. I don't see being married and proud as incompatible with feminism.

Grennie · 03/11/2013 19:05

Mini - Which is why I am asking. I don't understand it, so I am trying to.

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Grennie · 03/11/2013 19:04

Beach you said - You are "Proud to have a someone who loves me and is willing to make such a commitment to me."

That almost makes it sound like you think you don't really deserve love and commitment?

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MiniTheMinx · 03/11/2013 19:03

Maybe its semantics, maybe people mean different things when they use the word proud.

everlong · 03/11/2013 19:01

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cantthinkofagoodone · 03/11/2013 18:59

I would say that I'm proud to be married to my husband as I value marriage and he would say the same thing, that he's proud of being married to me

Grennie · 03/11/2013 18:59

HRH - I still don't really understand why you are proud of your marriage, or proud to call your Husband, my Husband?

I have been with my partner for 22 years. We are very happy and in love. But I am not proud of that. I am happy about it though.

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Bythebeach · 03/11/2013 18:59

I feel 'proud' to be married! Proud to have a someone who loves me and is willing to make such a commitment to me. To be trusted as their next of kin in life or death decisions too. I wouldn't expect to feel any different were it a same-sex civil partnership though...would be just as proud.
Totally loved my ex...10 year relationship...but wasn't quite the same ... wasn't wanting to be married in fact thought marriage was unnecessary if you had so loved each other. But the difference for me seems ti be when the live waned there was no commitment...and probably not enough respect either.....

MisForMumNotMaid · 03/11/2013 18:57

I'm proud that I've created a stable environment for my DC. I did that post end of first marriage. My second marriage enhances the stability - 2 adults 2 potential incomes/ lines of support.

I'd second the sentiment I'm happy to be married I'm not sure proud is the term I'd use.

SatinSandals · 03/11/2013 18:56

Actually it really isn't just a piece of paper but you only realise it in a crisis. I would speak to a solicitor about it. There all sorts of things that you won't have thought about.

WhentheRed · 03/11/2013 18:54

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happybubblebrain · 03/11/2013 18:53

I've never understood why people get married. It's never even crossed my mind that I should and if I had married dd's father I would probably have lost my house. I have no idea why anyone would be proud to be married when it's just a piece of paper. The relationship is the real bit.

HRHLadyG · 03/11/2013 18:50

What I actually said was that I was proud to call my Husband 'my Husband' and that I was proud of our lovely marriage, not that I was 'proud to be married'. There is a difference in interpretation.

HRHLadyG · 03/11/2013 18:47

I was one of the women who said I felt proud on the previous post. I also stated that I am independent and successful....at no point did I suggest that my marriage represented 'the pinnacle of my ambition'. I also feel pride as I watch my children grow and develop into lovely, vibrant young people....but being a Mother was also not my sole ambition! Bluejess has summarised this really accurately, thank you! x