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Lapdancing and telling off dh's mate.

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Manchesterhistorygirl · 02/10/2013 17:41

I blame you lot. Thanks.

Last night dh's friend was telling him all about his recent visit to a lap dancing bar. I told him he and his mates were a bunch of twats and I was disgusted at them all, especially since they all have partners.

I also told dh if I ever found out he'd done the same it'd be the absolute last thing he ever did.

So my nest of vipers, thank you for giving me the confidence to handle a situation I've always found disgusting, but wouldn't have ever spoken out about until I joined here.

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 03/10/2013 23:22

YGB, have you nothing to say to registary about his abusive threats of violence ?

Yougotbale · 03/10/2013 23:20

Register for rehab

BasilBabyEater · 03/10/2013 23:17

Are you drunk Registary?

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 03/10/2013 23:17

Yep. Ten a penny.

AnyFucker · 03/10/2013 23:16

See ? Ten a penny.

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SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 03/10/2013 23:09

God! What a hairy handed trucker.

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 03/10/2013 23:06

No, you don't get to apologise to OP and claim you were right. You can live and learn though.

AnyFucker · 03/10/2013 23:05

nincompoops...ten a-fuckin' penny

Yougotbale · 03/10/2013 23:03

sab it was the way I read the words. The fact that OP only cleared it up now made me think I was right. I can only live and learn. Again, sorry

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 03/10/2013 23:00

Oh. What caused you to misread the situation, do you think, bale?

I'm sure op is much obliged by your apology.

Yougotbale · 03/10/2013 22:57

Manchester, I'm sorry for misreading the situation. I'm sorry that because of that I called you names you definitely are not. I'm sorry

AnyFucker · 03/10/2013 22:56

I would consider it a result if someone who deliberately tried to make me feel less than in my own house never darkened the doorstep again.

One less wanker polluting my personal air space < dusts off hands >

A good days work, OP.

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 03/10/2013 22:50

Do one, bale.

rosabud · 03/10/2013 22:44

Thanks Cake Wine for Basil and OP

Yougotbale · 03/10/2013 22:43

Thanks for clearing that up manchester, i bet you are glad your husbands mate doesn't come round anymore. God must be evil to allow you to chose him as a godparent.

Remember to always speak up.

BasilBabyEater · 03/10/2013 22:38

Men: if you don't want women to think you are utter fucking nobbers and actively attacking us, remember not to talk about other women as if they - and by extension we - are bits of meat, in front of us.

We know what you're doing when you do that, even when you pretend that you don't know what we're talking about when we call you on it.

HTH.

BasilBabyEater · 03/10/2013 22:36

And BTW that's gone largely undiscussed on here - how fucking aggressive, rude and hostile the OP's guest was and how actually, him talking about lapdancing clubs, was a calculated insult to her.

The men arguing that she was rude, have completely glossed over how fucking insulting he was. He deserved to be horsewhipped, not just told off.

[NB: I'm not actually abusively advocating horse-whipping nobbers. I'm using that term in the "horse-whip the cad" colloquial sense of the word, which is generally not understood to be a literal exhortation.]

BasilBabyEater · 03/10/2013 22:32

"I'm honestly trying to envisage a situation where my wife has a mate over & they're chatting & I wade in calling them a bunch of twats etc. and I can't, honestly, think of a time it'd be acceptable."

Well, if someone came into your house and deliberately chose a topic of conversation designed to put you down, then it would be acceptable, no? Someone coming into your home and sneering at you in a passive-aggressive, covert way, designed to let you know that you shouldn't get above yourself and you should just remember that you're not quite as human as they are?

Has this ever happened to you? Because it happens to women all the time. And it happened to Manchesterhistorygirl. When men talk about fucking women or going to lapdancing clubs, or visiting Thai prostitutes, or pore over pornography shouting "phwoar, look at the tits on that!" when women are present, they are doing it in order to deliberately insult, embarrass, control and silence women, to put us in our place and to remind us that we're the sex caste. That we're one of those Untermenschen who are there to be fucked by them. In a workplace context it's known as sexual harassment, it's acknowledged that it creates a hostile environment for women and it's illegal. In our own homes, it's fucking abusive behaviour from a guest and the OP was absolutely right to slap the bastard down.

Venceremos. Grin

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 03/10/2013 22:24

I'm pleased that that's how you feel op. Some pretty nasty stuff has been written on this thread.

But what Beach wrote is right. Solidarity. Strength in numbers.

Manchesterhistorygirl · 03/10/2013 22:22

Thank you for asking am I ok with regards to the "personal attacks". Yes I am, I don't see them as attacks on me, but pathetic attempts to derail the thread over a figure of speech in an attempt to divert from what was actually said and done by someone who is close to my family and who's actions are at best misguided and at worst deliberate mysoginy.

OP posts:
SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 03/10/2013 22:19

I think it's exactly that AF. They are few but prolific namechangers/new registers. And they all want our attention. Bless.

AnyFucker · 03/10/2013 22:17

The dumbasses are interchangeable. Matters not which actual one it is. Unless they are all the same grubby little weed getting a semi from having grown up women pay them a bit of attention.

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 03/10/2013 22:16

^ Just my opinion of course.

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 03/10/2013 22:13

I think he's Treen44444 btw. Plus many others probably. Visiting from reddit.