Porn programme - C4

Quite, WhentheRed.

Cos Loaded wasn't about male-dominance and female humiliation at all, no siree.

"And the kids interviewed for this series confirm that they are seeing the nasty porn"

"That's not true at all"

Oh. Well, if you say so.

When they talk about "teenagers" I keep having to remind myself they mean "teenage boys". I've obviously been hanging around feminists too long

Or, when you're 8 years old, do you type 'femjoy' into your search engine?

But aren't kids just going to try Google first?

Gail Dines has been on over 100 porn studios as they are making porn and watched tons of porn. Why would you doubt her? Have you read her book?

no but i have seen these videos:

Gail Dines knows her stuff - of course she's watched it. And the kids interviewed for this series confirm that they are seeing the nasty porn that is, well, most of it now. You have to make an effort to find porn that is 'soft' these days.

That's not true at all. There is literally tons of softcore sites out there, especially webcam sites, like Live jasmin which pops up everywhere. Then there is the whole art erotica scene eg met-art, femjoy, hegre-art, onlytease, Art lingerie, Abby Winters etc.

Just looking on freeones (worlds most popular porn search forum), the most popular model on there (highest number of views) is Nikki Simms, followed by Anna Angel, Kari Sweets and Kates Playground. All softcore models.

I think it's the way he refers to his time at Loaded like it was just an innocent bygone time.

WhentheRed, I'm about 2 thirds through and it's not getting much better. The presenter just seems more concerned with its effect on boys' ability to get girlfriends than on any end effect it has on girls...

I'm hoping that the next episode might be different

Don't blame you. The chat with the young porn addict about 'real girls' is about 20 mins in if you can stomach it.

What are you on about libertarianj?

Extreme porn is mainstream: you only have to type the word 'porn' into google to see that.

And don't try telling me that it comes up on my computer because I look up 'rape' or 'child abuse' a lot, like most feminists.

It's there immediately - you know it, we all know it. Stop being silly.

Am watching the doc and God is it depressing, the way they're talking about women.

kotinka:

He was 19 so not a minor.

Don't know if anyone linked the programme?

Gail Dines knows her stuff - of course she's watched it. And the kids interviewed for this series confirm that they are seeing the nasty porn that is, well, most of it now. You have to make an effort to find porn that is 'soft' these days.

"How does porn affect women negatively"

Quite simply, it puts them under pressure to do things they might not want to.

This bloke just wants a big fat

"Erm, yeah sinful1, you know, it just affects women through " men's views towards them and sex in general."

Is that not rather fundamental confused"

huh?

sorry i was trying to say surely if they want to look at the effect it has through the change in mens attitudes then surely you have to analyse the men watching it?

Also, i'm pretty sure not just straight men watch porn, so im not sure how it "just2 affects women, unless im reading you wrong?

So, I hear the producer of this programme found his conscience about his own role in the promotion of porn and the objectification of women only after he had his own children.

Right. How fucking magnanimous of him.

Gail Dines has been on over 100 porn studios as they are making porn and watched tons of porn. Why would you doubt her? Have you read her book?

Fuck ArmyofPenguins. That sounds awful sad. Where are those people arguing that women aren't objectified?? There's a "really nice bloke" objectifying women and no-one notices (or cares).

but he's just one person, an extreme case. Hardly a great case for proving that porn causes all men to objectify women.

oh and that Gail Dines was talking nonsense, i'd question if she really has seen all the porn that she claims. Yet another one trying to make out that extreme porn is mainstream and is what all kids are watching.

No, I think it was a one-off.