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YouMakeMeWannaLaLa · 23/09/2013 23:23

Anybody see this? It was just horrific. I really, really hope it reached the right audience: punters and their defenders. I doubt it, but I hope so Sad

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BelaLugosisShed · 03/10/2013 17:21

The realities of prostitution were brought home hard last night by my DD, one of the girls in her form has been taken into care because her drug addicted, prostitute mother has been hospitalised by a "client", this poor girl is 12 years old and has a nine year old brother Sad .

I'd vote for any party who would prosecute men who pay to rape for sex and put them on a publicly available register .

LurcioLovesFrankie · 03/10/2013 17:08

Whenthered - I think your summary gives a pretty good insight into the insecurities of the sort of bloke who comes trolling on here. What they don't realise of course, is that those insecurities are their problem (and sadly, the problem of the women they exploit as a result), not ours.

ReviewsOffers · 03/10/2013 16:59

Couldn't make it up

the sky's green and grass is blue

WhentheRed · 03/10/2013 16:44

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FloraFox · 03/10/2013 16:31

"The only thing which makes such women clutch their pearls is their distaste at the thought of non-alpha males being allowed to have sex."

Okay, now I get it. A failed PUA with slightly better googling skills than the norm. He must seem like a genius in his crowd.

FloraFox · 03/10/2013 16:19

"You think that a man can't have an opinion without it being motivated by self-interest? Tut tut."

Says the man who invokes Objectivism and Schopenhauerean (sic) pessimism.

ReviewsOffers · 03/10/2013 13:24

I would really love to be convinced that everything is all doodle dandy in the sex industry.
It would be a big weight off my mind.

But it hasn't happened yet.

Maybe they need to hire a better calibre of shill?

Or is it the evidence itself that just doesn't stack up?

BuffytheFeministFeminist · 03/10/2013 10:33

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Grennie · 03/10/2013 10:16

I am not saying this is applicable here. But I also wanted posters to know that the sex industry does pay people to spend time on the internet pushing a pro porn and pro prostitution line. Don't assume that everyone who talks about this is genuinely talking about their views.

BuffytheFeministFeminist · 03/10/2013 10:10

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Grennie · 03/10/2013 10:08

If you want to hear from real women who have been prostituted, you can hear some of their stories here.

www.equalitynow.org/survivorstories

I have known many women who have been prostituted. I would rather listen to them than the views of some "gentlemen" who don't care about the women in prostitution at all.

ReviewsOffers · 03/10/2013 10:07

Do the pro prostitution people deny that there are people who are not in it through choice?

If not, do they care about these people?

Beachcomber · 03/10/2013 09:52

Yes, it's all very pompous a bit too hard for me to get my ladybrain around and all goes over my ladyhead.

Anyhoo for anyone interested in a little plain speaking on the subject of prostitution, I can highly recommend this from Catharine MacKinnon which she gives as a

BuffytheFeministFeminist · 03/10/2013 09:17

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Springrite · 03/10/2013 08:48

Sorry, crossed messages.

And what do you think should happen Spring?

I am a Schopenhauerean pessimist. You do not want to know.

I have to leave now to embark upon something called ‘public transport’. The only remark I wish to make for the moment is that Beachcomber is utterly 180-degrees wrong about the male ‘entitlement’ of which she speaks. That statement, like the Gulf of Tonkin, will come back to haunt her.

Springrite · 03/10/2013 08:44

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Beachcomber · 03/10/2013 08:39

What said the 'eugenics' is my posts was palpable?

Grennie · 03/10/2013 08:36

And what do you think should happen Spring?

Springrite · 03/10/2013 08:35

With regard to the previous message, I meant that Sweden actually did it and that there was no need to invoke Godders.

Springrite · 03/10/2013 08:33

I call Dawkins.

Springrite · 03/10/2013 08:31

No way: Sweden was actually guilty. It was not a comparison.

Springrite · 03/10/2013 08:29

It was created by radical feminists Catharine MacKinnon and Andrea Dworkin.

Indeed, but despite appearances, neither is/was a state. I was thinking in terms of nation states.

Beachcomber · 03/10/2013 08:29

Oooh, subtle as a brick.

I call Godwin!

Springrite · 03/10/2013 08:25

The The eugenics in your posts is, or are, palpable, Beachcomer.

Springrite · 03/10/2013 08:22

Circular reason and opinion.

With regard to the practical economic matter described in '...must be ameliorated by introducing measures such as poverty reduction...' I fear that that boat has sailed. The free market will have them.

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