OK. Please can we talk about women raping men?

All victims of abuse feel like that though, that's the point I am making.

It is not feminists who minimise and down play abuse. It is feminists who are trying to give voices to the victims.

I am sorry for your brother it is a hard thing to live through and get over.

Sunshine, I am sorry that happened to your DBro.

I think more often than not female victims don't come forward either, though the reasons for not doing so may be a bit different.

oh lordy SF. I'll leave you to it.

" but it's not on to suggest some people have more dignity to lose."

No they don't have more dignity to lose. However they more often than not do not come forward because of societies views on men and women.

My DB was abused for years by his wife. He would hide it, blame himself and so on, like most other victims of abuse.
When he did leave (6 years ago) to this day he still has not reported her. Even though he is remarried, happy, knows it was wrong of her. He feels totally humiliated that he was a victim of abuse from a women.
That viewpoint is what needs to change.

No need MO - who needs a t-shirt when you actually live it?

The imprisonment rates are startling, but still, I think, slightly irrelevant to the OP - the female no.s will be to do with offences against children and there a lot of them are 'aiding and abetting' a male, not their own substantive contact offences.

Yes Sunshine401 I agree. The patriarchy's a cock. Stereotyped gender roles are bad for everybody.

What's MRA ?

garlic... I couldn't agree with your post at the top of page 4 more.

I wish men's and women's rights movements would sort things out enough to campaign together on the big issues. But they won't

That bit jumped out at me.

As I have said on another recent thread on here I run a men's group with a focus on help and support. Sadly female on male sexual assault is not quite as rare as many would like to think. It is however a lot more rare than male on female sexual assault/rape or male on male for that matter. One of the biggest problems is for a man to actually admit to being assaulted in the first place due to the common view that a man is always up for it or is unmanly if a woman can assault him. It is one of the hardest thing for some of the guys I work with to say aloud.
I also feel it is unhelpful to say that it is less traumatic for a male victim than a female one as everyone is an individual and will feel differently about different things. For some it is not such a huge deal while for others it is soul destroying for them.

Most women do not come forward either. everyone is humiliated and ashamed when they have been abused. That's part of the trauma. It's heartbreaking, but it's not on to suggest some people have more dignity to lose. That's what it sounds like anyway when that argument is used.

PanThePontificatingPrat

You should get that on a Tshirt namechange, Pan

oh give over SF.

"In 2011, there were 10,832 male prisoners in custody for sexual offences, a rise of 4 per cent since 2010. There were 103 female prisoners in custody for sexual offences, a fall of 15 per cent since 2010.

Although there has been a general upward trend in the number of female prisoners in custody for sexual offences, it remains very low and is a very small proportion of the overall female prison population (2 per cent). For both the remand and the immediate custodial sentenced populations of prisoners in custody for sexual offences, the vast majority have an offence type of other sexual offences." p.50 ONS Report pdf

It just doesn't get reported, I think. I would guess, wrt men, because they feel they would be ridiculed. Which is just wrong.

The reason these crimes are not "at the same rate" of the number of women being rapped/attacked is because many men do not come forward.
DV for example, many many men suffer daily but the figures will tell you differently.

It is a real heartbreaking shame that even now in what is meant to be a some what more equal society that men still can not feel right and deserving to come forward and report women for these nasty horrible crimes.