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99% of prostituted women are trafficked

36 replies

foodmoneywirk · 23/08/2013 10:59

www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/people-who-trivialise-prostitution-ignorant-of-reality-240647.html

Shocking. The situation is even worst than originally thought. Sad

Sweden reduced prostitution by a whopping 70% so why doesn't the world follow Sweden's lead and just charge the johns with rape and rescue the women?

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SinisterSal · 23/08/2013 19:34

I am sooo looking forward to 300 posts on the semantics and context of the words 'many', 'either' and 'or'.

NiceTabard · 23/08/2013 18:48

He is giving his opinion, as a politician, about how he feels. I think his 99% is supposed to be taken in the manner it was quite obviously - to me - intended - to mean "a vast majority". He is saying he is shocked by the young ages of the girls, and that people who dismiss concerns by saying it's the oldest profession in the world need to bear in mind factors such as history of abuse, current abuse, coercion, being young and vulnerable and so on. He is not saying he has carried out an extensive scientific study and these are his findings, nor is he saying he has spent a period of time combining peer assessed scientific studies and now he is presenting the results. He is a normal person using standard vernacular to emphasise his point.

If it makes people understand better, try replacing the "99%" with "most" or "many" or "lots" or some other term like that.

MoonlightPicnic · 23/08/2013 18:43

Sorry all my grammar is rubbish. I meant that the johns and pimps get hammered ,and certainly not the girls. Apologies for the confusion.

FloraFox · 23/08/2013 18:26

It says "abused and trafficked". There's no point in getting into an and/or argument over a politician' statement. I think it's fair to assume he meant it in the "and/or" sense.

SinisterSal · 23/08/2013 18:15

That's daft. Is it a typo?

scallopsrgreat · 23/08/2013 17:50

So you acknowledge that the girls are exploited but then say that they should be 'hammered' as much as the johns Confused Talk about victim blaming. Harsh and grossly unfair.

ReallyTired · 23/08/2013 15:47

"Of course those that use children under 16 are child abusers, but in the case of those girls exploited by pimps I really believe that they should get hammered as much as the "Johns" if not more."

If the "johns" were not prepare to pay for sex then there would be no pimps. I agree with you that the pimps need to be punished as hard the customers. The girls themselves (and families!) need to be protected by the police so that they feel safe to tell the police who the pimps are. It is wrong to criminalise prostitutes who may well be cohersed.

MoonlightPicnic · 23/08/2013 13:43

"Moonlight have you ever challenged figures on young Black men and stop and search or disabled people dying after benefits are stopped?
Thought not"

Yes I have, this government treat those they perceive as being weaker then themselves as scum and/or potential scapegoats. I hate their welfare policies with a passion. Political or no we should always question especially when outlandish statistics go public.

Of course those that use children under 16 are child abusers, but in the case of those girls exploited by pimps I really believe that they should get hammered as much as the "Johns" if not more.

ReallyTired · 23/08/2013 12:14

I suppose its possible that 99% of prostitutes have been abused, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they have been trafficked from abroad. There are plenty British prostitutes who have been abused. Often young girls in care are targetted, just like happened in Rochdale or Oxford.

In fact every man who has sex with a 14 year old for money is committing child abuse. We need to punish these men a lot harder than we currently do.

JuliaScurr · 23/08/2013 12:07

Moonlight have you ever challenged figures on young Black men and stop and search or disabled people dying after benefits are stopped?
Thought not

MoonlightPicnic · 23/08/2013 11:58

?People should realise 99% of these women have been abused and trafficked into this country. They come from very deprived circumstances"

As big as example of bad science as I've heard. I do hope Mr Collins has robust figures to back that up.