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Slane girl 2013

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FrigginRexManningDay · 19/08/2013 10:54

I became aware of this yesterday on twitter and subsequently other social networking sites. It took hours for twitter to act.

Eminem played at Slane Castle on Saturday. A girl was photographed performing a sex act there. The picture went up on twitter and Facebook basically destroying this girl. The picture was retweeted many many times often with derogatory comments. The boys involved were regarded as heroes and legends. Slut shaming at its worst.
The girl is 15/16 years old (different reports of her age). It took Twitter hours and hundreds of emails to get them to react.
She is a young girl thrown to the lions.

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StephenFrySaidSo · 20/08/2013 17:14

I hadn't heard of this til this thread but a quick google shows him also performing a sex act on her. has there been a 'slane boy' thing? doubt it.

i'd say drink/drugs/ a dare of some sort.

OctopusPete8 · 20/08/2013 17:04

Is there? oh right.

makes you feel v. dirty though just seeing that.

I wonder what she/her parents must be going through.

smaths · 20/08/2013 16:54

There is more than one photo though, of the same girl performing the same "act" on two different men at the same concert... and another photo of one of the men with his hand up her knickers. I think that is why she was being particularly derided on social media. A foolish thing to do in public no matter what age you are, but the fact she is underage and the pictures were being shared everywhere is totally unacceptable.

OctopusPete8 · 20/08/2013 16:34

I think in terms of fb it shouldn't count you don't have much choice what pops up in your newsfeed, but there we go.

I would perhaps the same for twitter/tumblr tbh although I dunno.

FreyaSnow · 20/08/2013 14:07

Whether or not something is or is not child pornography depends on the context. An image as part of an album of say, a beach holiday might not be. The same image in a collection of half naked teenagers collected and put together on somebody else's computer might well be considered as such when investigated by the police.

That is all pretty much irrelevant to the images in this case which clearly showed a sexual act involving somebody who it now seems is very likely to not be an adult. To look at such an image is to observe child pornography.

OctopusPete8 · 20/08/2013 13:56

Yeah , I didn't comment on it though not inviting that window of abuse.

Its off now I bet a few people did.

Im actually more bothered about the younger teens who may have seen it, I think calling people who have seen it 'observing child pornography' is out of line, I see threads on here about people complaining there teen niece or something is uploading half naked pictures on fb, are they 'observing child pornography?'

FreyaSnow · 20/08/2013 13:04

Did you report it?

OctopusPete8 · 20/08/2013 12:58

Although I think both of them need arresting and a tap on the wrist, the pair of them.

much younger children could have witnessed that.

OctopusPete8 · 20/08/2013 12:57

I came across it on fb of all places,
theres 13 year olds that will have seen that.

FreyaSnow · 20/08/2013 12:42

I think that's perhaps the point. The police cannot go out and track down the vast number of people who have chosen to download this image, or retweeted it etc because there are simply too many of them.

So many people now think it is acceptable to view child pornography that it would be impossible to deal with them all through the legal system.

Very sad.

OctopusPete8 · 20/08/2013 12:27

Sorry if my description offended anyone ,

I * certain words so I don't see how its that graphic, I was trying to describe it was v. much a display.
Not much having a thread of discussion if most people don't know what it looks like.
If that warrants me for arrest Kritiq then about 60 percent of the interwebs will be arrested then will they? which as we all know is v. tame compared to outsiders.

FrigginRexManningDay · 20/08/2013 08:57

KRIQ the age of consent is 17 in Ireland so by all probability she is underage. Her name was also revealed on twitter. Its all on her,her life is being ruined,not the boys in the photos,she will be the one this will follow.
Facebook remove photos of babies being breastfed and yet it took hundreds of reports and two days to remove these photos.
I remember some years ago photos of Jamie Lynn Spears breastfeeding were published and there was uproar as she was only 16 and underage. And then we have a girl giving oral sex and its fine to tweet and reweet and make pages about her. Breastfeeding to most men isn't sexual or provocate. To me it sounds like if a photo is appealing to men it is fine,if a photo of breasts being stuck out and nipples hard appeals that's fine,but put a baby on thoses breasts feeding its not fine.
Twitter and Facebook had the power to stop the distribution of the photo. They didn't.

Do I make sense?

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working9while5 · 20/08/2013 08:56

Oh get a grip Kritiq. Describing something that went viral isn't illegal whether you agree with it being described or not.

PeriodMath · 20/08/2013 01:11

Aren't they both behaving in a pretty disgusting way?

KRITIQ · 19/08/2013 22:44

If it is found following investigations that the young woman is below the age of consent that there will be charges laid against several of those who have possessed and distributed the image. Doesn't matter whether they were involved in creating the image, whether they were there or whether they "innocently" Hmm viewed and passed the link/image to someone else. It would be easy enough to find the digital traces on computers and portable devices, providing the evidence needed to press charges. I think it will only be when a big chunk of folks get their collars felt for things like this will people start to think twice about viewing and sharing them.

Octopus, there was no need for your graphic description of the image either.

Will there be a knock at your door? Who knows.

WhentheRed · 19/08/2013 21:29

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working9while5 · 19/08/2013 21:25

I've unfortunately seen it. I think there's a lot of predictable scarlet-lettering of her but it's disturbing either way. It is broad daylight and exhibitionist by both parties. I'd be deeply ashamed and worried if either my son or daughter were in this. Allegedly the upload was done by a female friend and given there are a number of photos of very public displays of different sexual acts it seems horrifyingly staged. Very worrying to see any young people involved in this and very worrying how it has done the rounds in adult groups of both sexes. I was confronted by it in a group of other mothers ffs. It's really disturbing.

FreyaSnow · 19/08/2013 21:12

Whether or not either or both of the people have committed an offence at the time, that doesn't change the legality of sexual images of people who are not considered capable of consent.

OctopusPete8 · 19/08/2013 19:59

I have seen the pic, it isn 't like a teen couple in throws of passion , this lad is topless with his shorts down, and she has his ahem in her mouth and actually looking at people walking past in a very public area, whilst half in her mouth its fucking grim tbh,
I feel more sorry for the ppl who had to witness it.
I think their parents need to talk to both of them about how sex acts in public are illegal!!!! that was a very public display.

FreyaSnow · 19/08/2013 17:43

The photos are being investigated by the police now. They haven't stated her age but they have said she is at school.

This is again the issue of sexual images of real people. You don't know that the person you are viewing the images of is an adult, that they are capable of consenting or that they did consent. The assumption that the images are legal is just that, an assumption.

mayorquimby · 19/08/2013 15:49

Not sure who is report it too. It was trending on twitter last night when there was no mention of her age and they seem to have reacted since then.

Certainly not a case of being caught, it's in the middle of a crowded area. It looks like the entrance or exit to a toilet with people walking past so I presume a similar about of people would have been there when they started.

YoniTime · 19/08/2013 15:45

You must be very detached from your body and shameless if you manage to stand up and do a thumbs up at other people while having your sexual organ stimulated. Couldn't have been very good.

I have of course no idea about what sort of relationship he and the girl had and what happened. But I'm getting a "lol imgeting my dik suked by a lowly gurl highfive bros" vibe from it. Or they were caught drunk having sex and his response was to use humour.

Boosterseat · 19/08/2013 15:42

I still cannot for the life of me figure out why people would distribute an image of a girl who is more than likely under 18 engaging in a sexual act.

Oh well, its just "banter" Hmm

Are you going to report the image mayorquimby?

mayorquimby · 19/08/2013 15:40

Oh and there's nothing that would hint at unwillingness
There's photos of her with the same guy from throughout the day cropping up so it appears they were together in some sense
As to his and her alcohol or drug intake that's anyone's guess but it would be nothing more than a guess to start making those assumptions.

mayorquimby · 19/08/2013 15:36

It's all fairly depressing
They're both obviously somewhere in the 15-17 range
She has attributed various ages to herself on different social network sites so its unclear as to age.

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