Slane girl 2013

SinisterSal 22:09 I feel the same, it was my reaction too.

There are a lot of people to be held culpable here.

It's reported she approached the guarda prior to all released videos and photographs and complained of sexual harassment.

The video in question was put on YouTube and shows her, prior to the photographs, surrounded by a group of males, being groped and verbally abused, she is kissing apparently a different male. It's reported that she is very 'out of it' in the video, and that there are voices caught on the video asking who she is with and where her friends are.

Then following this there came the photographs as described already.

"Her life is probably ruined"

and his life?

Surely he and the other abusers should be punished in some way?

And that's before we get into the the bullying and creepiness of spreading this round the internet at the girl's expense. Because it certainly hasn't been at the man's expense. Those of you saying you blame the men as much is all very well, but they aren't getting any blame. There is barely any focus on them at all. It is all about the girl's behaviour. And that is just wrong.

Here is another report showing that this is a damn sight more abusive than some people on this thread seem to think.

Suggesting a child has the same agency as the adults abusing her is pretty shoddy and victim-blaming.

Jacobsmummy - it's not really about her or her choices though. I mean how does it actually affect any of us that this happened? It's mortifying ly bad taste, but she didn't hurt anybody.
Surely the issue is the vile people who shared the picture? That was designed to hurt and humiliate and degrade.
What about those who have actively sought out the pictures? You mention they were horrible to see so maybe you are one of them, but what is their motivation? Why would anybody want to join in with the humiliation of a young girl who has hurt nobody?

It doesn't matter what the age of consent is - irrelevant. Under 18, it's child porn.
The sex act itself may well be 'legal'.
The image isn't.

Haven't seen it myself.

The girl was confirmed to be 17, the age of consent in Ireland.
I think the whole thing is a disgrace, I think she made a really bad choice and the images were awful to see.
Don't get me wrong the boy clearly has no respect for women or that girl at all, he viewed himself as a ledgend or a 'lad' and he probably doesn't care that this has gone viral. If my son ever did such a thing...scratch that because id raise him better than to ever treat a young woman like that, but the girl....i am not on her side at all, I think she objectified herself and I as a woman am embaressed for her. Im not perfect and have made mistakes but I have not done something like that, something I consider intimate in front of an 'audience' it makes me sick. She did that and now her family are probably mortified and disgusted. The garda request that everyone respect her privacy? It didn't look like she wanted much privacy. If you give bj's out to multiple men in a crowd of people with camera phones what was supposed to happen? The bigger question I wonder is where were her friends to keep her right, to be there for her? Im sure she didn't go alone. Her life is probably ruined and I think the whole thing has gone too far. But when im super drunk I talk crap, fall about and maybe cry...i dont disrespect myself like she did. The boy? He should be shamed because he is a complete example of how the boys behave these days.

Perhaps, haven't been following it closely, but the impression that's given was that it was all her performing o.s on him.

There's another picture Sal, might make you think differently.

No totally makes sense sal.

Aside from the double standards -
It's troubling that it wasn't a mutual sex act, it was she performing a sexual service for him (in a sense)
It wasn't two teenagers engulfed in passion. It was someone performing and someone else accepting accolades, in more ways than one.

i am not phrasing this well, can anyone else do a better job.

Goes without saying I hope she is OK.

Is the boy in the picture sedated in hospital? NO?

Fucking patriarchy.

(PS will eat words if he is, obviously)

Have not seen any of these things on facebook and so on so going on this thread.

It shows up how things are when two young people engage in a mutual sex act and it is pictured, the reaction is humiliation for one party and thumbs up for the other. A toxic mix of slut/virgin and porn.

In an equal world both of those young people would feel / get the same for a mutual sex act which got photographed and sent around.

And even more, thinking about it, why should the person who is revealing their mouth be more vilified than the person with their genitals out? That's not normally how it works.

Oh yes because slut/virgin and porn.

I keep posting and erasing what next for her and just everyone involved. Could go on for ages. I don't want to make any assumptions as to her past/motivations/state of mind so I won't. that's just unguessable.

booster re : if cameras were there in our day, agree. awful. the prevalence of cameras is skewing people's behaviour in a really awful way

Humilation is exactly the right word Kelly, and I would be equally as angry with my child for passing it around as I would be if they were actually taking part.

If everyone was judged on their actions at 17 most of us would be red faced on a daily basis, that poor young woman.

I sincerely hope she gets through this otherwise these "sharers" also have a lot to answer for.

I think you can quite clearly tell from the tone of my post that I would be highly unlikely to seek it out.

I have read about it, there's already a few good comment pieces about this which is heartening. I haven't seen the picture and won't.

And the vile comments I'm talking about are in reference to the kind mentioned in the op. sorry to have confused you Pete.

I dont think anyone was making vile comments

Why are you suggesting people sought it out? is that what you did??

some transference going on here.

really? poor lass did she attempt to kill herself.

Bloody hell, poor thing.

I don't understand why anyone is even commenting on the rights or wrongs of what she did. That is so not the point. If you walked past them with your child then of course, tell them to have a bit of bloody respect but you didn't. If you've seen this picture it's on the Internet, and more than likely have sought it out
The point is that that our view of female sexuality is so utterly fucked that an image a young girl engaging in a sexual act is taken and spread and people people are falling over themselves to see it and make vile comments. Why? I highly doubt those getting all excited about it have never seen porn - it's purely about humiliation.
And that vile mix that some men have of feeling disgusted at a female engaging in sex and bitterness that its not them on the receiving end. It's fucked up.