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"My Peter Pan husband is growing up at last"

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BlingLoving · 06/08/2013 15:52

This article had me shaking my head in absolute horror. I think it's supposed to be a "good news" piece - ie the man stepped up at the end and haha, he only forgot one of his children instead of three.

But it's not funny. It's just sad. She's got three children and spent eight years with this man and he's only now "Growing up".

What does an article like this say about or society? To me it just continues to encourage men to feel it's okay to behave like children while making women think this is normal and they should be "grateful" for whatever "help" they get. I despair.

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 06/08/2013 18:01

It is depressing. I hate this kind of attitude and this is why I won't stand "oh, MEN" type conversation, as if penis-bearing gives you a get out for caring for yourself and your small children.

StillSeekingSpike · 06/08/2013 17:29

This article is the same fucking depressing view of marriage that I grew up with- that the role of women was to 'stop' men Having Fun. And that all men were entitled fuckwits who treated women badly.
Nowhere was the idea that women might also have fun or say to men 'see you when you've grown up'. No, you married your spouse and then spent the rest of your life moaning about it.
Men just swap Big Bad Mummy for Big Bad Wifie.

peteypiranha · 06/08/2013 17:28

Its just a story about a desperate doormat designed to shock like the kind you read in chat or take a break. Not many men in rl act like this,and the ones that do are in the minority.

SomeDizzyWhore1804 · 06/08/2013 17:25

My nan always used to tell my mum (her daughter in law) that she was "so lucky" to have my dad because he was "so good" i.e not an entitled pillock who spent all the housekeeping on horses and beer. However I always put that down to her being very old fashioned (born 1905) and just having had a very different kind of life to my mums generation. Depressing that this woman is saying it when she can't be more that 40.

Darkesteyes · 06/08/2013 17:22

This reminds me of a post i read on the Relationships board yeasterday on the thread "Lap dance at stag do."
The OPS DH after getting a lap dance in a hummer said that if his year old daughter grew up to be a stripper he wouuld hate it.
I mentioned the Madonna/whore complex and got shouted down by a poster who said that its perfectly alrright for a man to change his mind about this as he gets older and that its not hypocritical Confused

absolutely nothing to do with a man getting older and his sex drive dropping off so he doesnt care when hes older as long as he can get his jollies when hes younger and wants it more

MorrisZapp · 06/08/2013 17:20

What a pair of tossers.

Onesleeptillwembley · 06/08/2013 17:15

He's a complete loserm but frankly she's just as bad. Stupid woman.

OrangeLily · 06/08/2013 16:42

What a wanker. However, she chose to have children with him! I've known DH since he was a teenager and even then he showed more consideration.

BlingLoving · 06/08/2013 16:25

Oh god, It's so depressing.

This is the GUARDIAN. Not The Telegraph or the Mail.

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KRITIQ · 06/08/2013 16:06

No, it's not funny and yes, it is sad that she felt it acceptable to put up with such disrespectful, irresponsible behaviour from a partner. But, if you look at the AIBU section and elsewhere here, there are plenty of women who either feel that behaving like an entitled child with too much pocket money is "natural" for a man and something you just have to "put up with" if you want to have a man in your life, have children, etc.

I sense though that the author of the article has written it as much to convince herself that the marriage and how he behaved in it was "okay," even laughable, because that seems a better way of coping with the situation than thinking, "you know, I've been treated like crap by my husband and it's been hurtful and unfair."

Yes, I do think men are conditioned to believe they have the "get out clause" of "just being a man," for everything from excessive drinking to violence, from not having much interest in their children to affairs. Likewise, women are conditioned to "thank heaven for small mercies," if they don't have a partner who's not a complete tool, or in this case, if they seem to get a bit better after a while.

Not all men of course respond to this conditioning, and sadly those that don't toe the line can be ostracised by those men who do, because they "let the side down." Likewise, I've previously had well meaning (?) female friends tell me I was being too picky in what I wanted from a prospective partner - often where they were in relationships where they seemed to be unhappy because their partners were irresponsible, disrespectful, inconsiderate, etc. Baloney.

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