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AIBU to feeling both enraged & depressed at this

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AnnoyedAtWork · 22/07/2013 17:16

Work colleague (male dominated env.) telling my line mgr he's going on a stag do to Croatia, when asked why there particularly, says "it's very, um, pretty.." with knowing smirk (clearly referencing the fact he will go to strip club / worse but knows can't mention in front of me ) .

Regardless of your views on strip clubs on stag do's, AIBU to think that he should not have been alluding to this shit in the workplace, makes me feel like women are totally marginalised and laughed at behind our backs!

I know this person is a nasty piece of work and doesn't respect women but the fact that others will laugh along behind my back makes me feel so terribly angry and want to cry. It makes me paranoid that most men in fact do not respect their wives /girlfriends and think nothing of lying, belittling, marginalising, cheating on them and certainly don't take women seriously in the work place.

I trust my partner and he dislikes the idea of strip clubs as degrading and agrees with me it is not okay if you are in a relationship. However I worry that it would be difficult to ensure that the 1 or 2 remaining stag dos (last few def did not include this) - given the friends they will be for- would not include visit to lap dance club. The idea makes me feel physically ill and I could not accept my partner going to one even though I'd trust him not to get a dance. So basically I'm dreading having to eventually cross that bridge when those 2 friends get married. Id be asking him to tell his mates he won't go if strip clubs are involved or if it turns out to be a surprise, to not go in. I felt like we communicate well about feminism etc and so was worrying about this less but the thing with my work colleague has made me despair of men.

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TunipTheVegedude · 22/07/2013 20:36

YANBU and don't take any notice of the last poster.

The really depressing thing is the smirk. He didn't say it outright so it's hard for you to make a complaint, which is what is so annoying.

Not everywhere is like this, though. Maybe one day you can find a job somewhere that's not full of sexist arseholes.

QuiteContent - 'check out some tarts'? Hmm I would only expect a sad misogynist to use language like that. Does that describe you?
And, you know, it's not up to a man to tell women what they should be getting offended about.

QuiteContent · 22/07/2013 20:29

You asked, he probably knew your feelings over these issues and so coyly hinted at what he was going for in a way that stopped you marching to HR.
I can't see the problems with strip clubs, all though I expect to be in the vast minority here as a man posting on a feminist thread. If you do have a distaste for them, that's more than reasonable - no doubt about it, but it is perhaps a bit ott to be enraged just because a colleague might be visiting one.
It certainly shouldn't make you despair of men, we're not all hopping on a plane to watch some strumpet dance about.
It's fair that you expect your husband to stay away from them if that's what you discussed, but for me, what some chap does with his weekend is no cause for concern to anyone else, especially as he didn't shout about it.

I'm not pro or anti feminism or anything really, and whilst I appreciate you are, there's surely bigger issues to get offended over than a man you work with hinting that he is going abroad to check out some tarts.
I'm not trying to dismiss your concerns, not at all, it's just that you make it sound like you're the type that tries to get offended over the most minor thing, which I'm sure is not the case at all.