Seriously?

Domestic arts are indeed important, useful and for some people very enjoyable. it's not just the submission link that bothers me but also the 'wife' bit. This sort of attitude forces girls to assume a role they may be very unhappy with and denies it to boys who may miss out on something they would otherwise really enjoy. I really hate the 'equal but different' type ideologies because they deny us all our individuality.

My neighbours do modest dressing for the females, with appropriate household rules, and the man utilised "physical chastisement" on the children.

I once went round with some kind of document that needed witnessing and she wrung her hands and said "oh but that is the sort of thing that DH should do" and I kind of gave her a look and a smile and she did it. But she wasn't happy about it.

It all creeps me out. This isn't new though, their children are late teens / adults now and we are in leafy north london suburb

Mind you we seem to do quite well for fairly extreme religious groups round here so maybe I shouldn't be surprised. There must be something in the air

More like Beating Your Wife The Godly Way, tribpot

Thing is the 'housewifely arts' are important, & useful, and are real skills. It's just a pity all that has been co-opted into the entire submission-package.

Sorry, I didn't mean to offend anyone who is religious. In my very limited experience, there is a very small minority of very religious families who go in for the stereotypical homemaking stuff on those blogs, and do the overly patriachal society too, and I was wondering if that was skewing things. And yes, turnip, that stuff is shocking

Does Domestic Discipline involve not leaving your washing out on the line overnight?

Oh dear.
And if you think this is bad you should see the Christian Domestic Discipline sites....

Can i also say that I am a Christian and a feminist.

The ideology in these blogs makes me mad. It's not Christianity, it's a twisted, male-centric, patriarchal ideology where women are forced into specific, so-called (but not) 'Biblical' roles. It must be so stifling to be a female born into that culture. Mind you, there are many, many cultures around the world where women are equally limited.

Yes, akiss, I completely agree with that point. All children should be encouraged to do whatever they want to do, be that pink toy dolls or a football crazy.

I wonder if part of the 'bleurgh' reaction to blogs like these a ridiculing of anything seen as traditionally feminine?

For me it's the idea that they are raising daughters to follow in their footsteps. I think adult women should be whatever they want to be but children should be shown many options of how their life could be and be given some choice. A lot of women in these kinds of marriages home educate so their children have such a limited outlook.

I wonder if that's the problem. Traditionally feminine roles have in the past few decades mainly been embraced more by religious communities, so the idea of actually wanting to be a 'homemaker' is getting confused with being a more submissive wife etc. If I'm managing to make that make any sense at all?

See, I'm actually a little torn on this - because there is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to be a SAHM, or to enjoy cooking, cleaning and sewing, or to like wearing skirts. So there's a huge core of what some of these blogs are saying which to me is pretty much fine, it's just one woman making her point and explaining her interests in the same way as a blog by a rugby-playing, finance-working single woman stridently advocating her interests and ideals isn't wrong either.

Now I agree that I think a lot of what some of these blogs are saying is absolutely bollocks (DP and I both would still benefit from adult supervision ) but... I wonder if part of the 'bleurgh' reaction to blogs like these a ridiculing of anything seen as traditionally feminine?

Personally I think these are the sites to turn to you need a really good spit coffee over your keyboard laugh

Nothing like a load of Stepford wackos to feed one's sense of the ridiculous.

Good grief to me it's just all totally nutso.

My next door neighbours live this way and when they talk about it with me I never know WTAF to say! I tend to stick to non-committal "hmmm" noises.

The ladies against feminism site is less hilariously bonkers and more utterly terrifying. Just in case anyone was thinking of going over there for a laugh.

But I like being unkempt, it's one of the best bits of being a SAHP.

Bonkers sites, they really are. No idea they had such a following though.

Oooh

"There are many types of homes, but I think the best of these is where a woman presides as a benevolent monarch in the fashion of Jesus, as the servant of all."

I am loving this site.
Thank you OP

I like this:

"My little girls were sitting playing dolls on the floor together when the 6yo came up to me and said, ?Mom, you?ve just got to sew us a prince for our dolls!?

To which I replied, ?You know, I really, really need to do that?your princesses need a prince!? She immediately ran over to her sisters and proclaimed, ?Mom says she?s going to make us a prince!? and they all squealed.

It was one of those moments that could have slipped past me?just a normal part of our every-day lives?until I realized the profundity of the whole scenario.

While we are sitting around as a family, reading the Bible aloud or watching a movie together in the evening, I am usually sewing on something, something for my little girls, or mending some jeans for my boys, or crocheting doilies for the furniture. " etc etc and so on.

Great site

"Painting a picture of biblical femininity"

Super

nooka.
I have no idea what happened to the a in my last post.

Sounds good nook, being a homemaker should not be defined by gender.