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How do feminist mums of dds square the circle of bringing them up to feel they have the right to wear what they want, have a positive attitude to sex, etc AND stay safe at the same time?

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breadandbutterfly · 30/06/2013 19:14

Finding this hard now my dd is a teen - she wants to wear micro-minis and make-up etc - she knows she looks good and enjoys the positive attention from boys as well as other girls. As a feminist, I don't want to tell her she can't wear what she wants because people might get the wrong idea etc ie akin to blaming the victim - but as her mum, I want her to be safe, and not give boys the impression she's up for all things sexual because she isn't.

It was easy for my mum's generation - she could just say that 'nice girls don't' and that basically sex was not nice and best avoided until obligatory in marriage Grin - not correct,but at least unambiguous. 'Nice girls' also didn't wear short skirts etc. But trying to give positive messages about sex whilst also making it clear it's best left till lots older (she's 13) and about the right to dress to please herself whilst also understanding that other people will judge you on the basis of what you wear, is a rather tricky balance to express.

How do other mums deal with this, please?

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wonderingagain · 30/06/2013 19:29

Also I don't think anyone dresses to please themselves. We dress to please both ourselves and others - it's about identifying (and being practical). Perhaps this is why you have a problem with it - you are denying that there is a viewer or any other reason to choose your clothes.

Victim blaming is what it says on the tin. You are not victim blaming someone to tell them to dress appropriately. The bare flesh thing for example makes you seem vulnerable - not because it entices men into lascivious thoughts but actually you are - you get cold, sunburnt, can scratch yourself, get dirty etc. It's actually a bit pompous because you're saying 'nothing can touch me' or even a bit sad - you're saying 'I never go outside'.

Clothes always tell people something and it helps give perspective if we understand what they are saying.

wonderingagain · 30/06/2013 19:21

-influence them in the way YOU want to-

wonderingagain · 30/06/2013 19:20

I think you can send whatever message you want - I started by saying 'that's SO Paris Hilton' and it put her off doing that showy thing. I taught her about wearing appropriate clothes for the weather and for practicality.

We talk about why people wear what they wear - eg high heels, baggy clothes, etc. I have a rule about either showing all legs or all arms but not both unless you're on the beach.

You need to be the adult and set the rules you want to and influence them in the way they want to. They can do what they like when they're 16, it's up to you.

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