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"Miss" being the equivalent of "Sir"

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heidihole · 22/06/2013 15:11

I was reading this article today about the ball boys and girls of Wimbledon.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2346256/Never-mind-Andy-Murray--ball-girls-boys-REALLY-hell-star-Wimbledon.html?ico=home^editors_choice

I was sad to see that they are all professionally and formally trained to say (for example holding open a door) "after you, Sir" or "after you, Miss"

AIBU to think that the equivalent of Sir is not Miss! It should be Madam or M'am.

quotes from the article:

From the minute they step in here, they?re under no illusions as to what is acceptable, down to tying shoelaces with two knots, addressing us all as ?Miss? or ?Sir? and opening doors,? she says.

Goldson trains her ball boys and girls not to chat with the players. If spoken to or asked about a line call, they are instructed to say: ?I don?t know, Sir/Miss? ? even if they do.

Their backs are straight, their hair is gleaming, their shirts are tucked in, they look you in the eye, smile sweetly and hold doors open with an ?After you, Miss?.

If I was asked the equivalent of Miss I would say Mr. As in, "Excuse me, Mr, have you got the time please? Excuse me, Miss have you got the time please"

A small thing but irritating me none the less.

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TheOriginalSteamingNit · 22/06/2013 15:50

YANBU, and this makes me cross when schools do it, too.

heidihole · 22/06/2013 15:47

Ma'am isn't American! Its the correct way to address the Queen for a start. It comes from the French

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madam

I wouldn't like to be called Miss if my DH was being called Sir.

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faeriefruitcake · 22/06/2013 15:45

I think it probable comes from how teacher are addressed and Miss is easier to say than Mrs, it flows. Also Ma'am is American and being a Madam isn't a compliment.

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