Charles Saatchi. Oscar Pistorius, Roman Polanski, John Leslie, Mel Gibson, Charlie Sheen, J Simpson, Jimmy Savile, Chris Brown, Paul Gasgoigne,

Pete, you are barely literate, mate. Sort it out, will ya.

Tbh I always thought the whole Jon Leslie thing was very suspect tbh, as he was outed by someone guessing and instead of confirming either way she just sat back and got out the popcorn I expect,
Just because men doesn't mean every man who get accused is guilty
To be clear that is one of the very few cases where I have thought

I think women are more likely to abuse PA's rather than Partners esp. in that buisness DP's are more trophies than people,

In RL women fill the servitude role which is almost equivalent to a PA.

Good posts PromQueen.

Oh god yes- Mike Tyson

did anyone else find it amazing that mike Tyson, Mike Tyson the well known convicted domestic violence perpetator and rapist and biter of ears has been welcomed back in to the main stream? When he was on the set of How I met your mother or the hang over did anyone ask the women how they felt standing next to a rapist? if they were ok with it?

I find the casual violence shown in soaps disturbing (and that's by men and women) and on many occasions completely without consequence. I don't watch any soaps now.

I spent years watching Phil and Grant in Eastenders and cringing at the way their 'tough men' characters were glamourised. Ugh.

what promqueen said.

men are conditioned. not all men act on it.

Some parents raise their children gender neutraly they aren't dumb enough to assume that they are the only influence in their child's life. At some point their daughter or son goes to school and is taught that "girls like princesses" "boys are tough" "boys like to rough house." it does not mean your daughter will want to be a princess! but a part of them does know that's "how it should be". you can admit rape culture exists without saying all men are rapist.

Some parents buy girls stupid pink dresses and only allow boys to be active. We are a responsibility to bring children up in a more gender neutral way and not to condone violence. My children are at single sex schools but there is no condoned violence at the schools as far as I know.

I agree with promqueen - how many times have I seen boys thumping each other in the playground excused as 'rough play' and 'boys do play rough' etc - on MN and irl. That's part of it - social conditioning.

There was a thread t'other day about a game of tag which turned into 4 boys pulling a girl to the ground and kicking her - there was definitely an air of "but boys will be boys" and "the girl joined in the game and then moaned when she got hurt" in the OP and from other posters on there. I was

Little boys whose rough play violence is allowed and excused all through their childhood grow up into men who think they can be violent.

Most patronising post of the day!

Thanks MNHQ for deleting the victim blaming posts by conversation

Btw I believe Ulrika.

PromQueen, what rubbish.

I think when you were conducting your research with all the men in the world, you failed to interview any of the men in my life. Because of this oversight, I can conclude with absolute certainty that you have made this up.

Not helpful.

I have no idea what the point of this thread is or what sort of debate the OP was hoping to spark beyond "All men are bastards. Discuss."

And why didn't John Leslie sue Mathew Wright he certainly made enough fuss about it until more women came forward then he decided to shut the fuck up how surprising

coversation1, you are a cute little misogynist aren't you ?

I wonder why you think your comments are welcome here

Do you have that much faith in our legal system to beleive that only the guilty are found guilty everytime

"Btw, your thread title is libellous. Sme of those men have not been photographed/found guilty of/admitted to anything of the sort."

I'm going to repeat this. The OP is libellous and is throwing serious accusations around too freely.