Fucking hell, Nigella picture, WTF? [includes links to upsetting images]

even more frightening for her, one imagines.

I know.

It's a hidden in plain sight kind of thing isn't it?

because they're slebs... which is ridiculous, but i know it would have put me off.

No I can't imagine I would have intervened. Not in between sleb A and sleb B.

on the one hand, i think he at least tried to answer. most of them wouldn't have bothered. it's just a shame he fucked it all up.

as i said on the other thread, though. if i had seen them and known who it was, NO WAY would i have intervened. just... cos. i think i would have still been processing who the fuck it was.

and if i hadn't... i almost certainly would have tried to catch her eye afterwards, and might have tried to catch a surreptitious snap of it and seen if the police wanted it as evidence.

so it's a tough question, because the truth is really not great.

Just read it.

Not got the best track record has he?

No. What's he said now?

did anyone hear the nick clegg interview?

^^

Yup.

I think the key, if you are concerned about your legacy, is to make sure you don't balls it up and do something so horrific that it overshadows your other work. You know, like putting your hands round your wife's throat.

the not hoe!

Good re wedding ring.
His 2nd ex wife thinks he is being treated unfairly!
And doesnt want this to be part of his legacy.
I have noticed before hoe "top" people are concerned about their legacies.

As far as I can see with legacies though, is that unless you are say a royal , or politician, you are all but forgotten after 50 years.
100 years at the most for eg the likes of Charlie Chaplin or Walt Disney.

So Nigella has been seen without her wedding ring on.

And if I am correct CS has gone back to the same restaurant????

That would be my suspicion yams, yes.

Had a bit of an ephiny.
Had a relook at one of Boffins links on the first page.
It says that Saatchi and Nigella hardly spend anu time apart from each other.
I know a few couples like this.
I used to think it was a bit endearing, but too emotionally stifling for my personal taste.
But is the real reason because one person is trying to control the other?

joan I did mention this on the other Nigella thread in chat. I think it's a poor excuse and, as I said there, he really should have considered just not writing the article if his position as a friend (of NL only or both of them, I wonder?) was going to compromise it in any way. And frankly I think he's let her down as a friend by writing an article that is so determined not to condemn violence against her.

I'm glad to see a bit of follow-up to Roy Greenslade's article, but I do feel a bit that nobody saw anything wrong in him writing the original article about a close friend without acknowledging it.

I remember posting on here years and years ago that I wished British journalists had to say what their connection was to the subject/person in the article at all times. 'Fantastic Book... written by my wife's best friend who I see most weekends' for example. 'Scandalous Experience.... of my brother-in-law'. I would say that journalists should recuse themselves from any involvement in a story that affects people they know, but how would the papers be filled?

Oh Boffin That all sounds scarily familiar. I have had a relationship with a very well known and successful man in his field. The whole improving thing rings such bells. It wasn't lists (but I wouldn't have put it past him). He used to tell people how much he had improved me and every time I was in the kitchen cooking he would tell me how I should be making what ever it was. And there were always the little suggestions about how to behave and what to wear. Fuck. The. Fuck. Off.

And the putting down in public too. I wasn't spoken to for days if I disagreed with him in front of other people. He slapped me across the face at a party for speaking to another man. Nobody said anything.

I went out briefly with another businessman and he smashed up the house around me when I put the phone down on his new girlfriend (so many reasons why that relationship was brief )

It's eerie how the same things are replicated throughout abusive relationships. It's like there is a template.

practicality. It can take lots of abuse, and lots of times of attempted leaving, before someone leaves a situation like that for good.

I am not getting this Boffin.
Why is there nothing you can do now about what happened to you?

I think I am right in saying that it is possible to put something on record with the police, but to ask for it not to be taken any further.
But then, if someone else comes along and makes a complaint, there are then 2 records on the police file.

Boffin- that is absolutely dreadful. I don't know if it would be wise for you to out this creature due to legal repercussions. Was any of the violence documented? I understand the need/urge to though.

Although I know Nigella is not at fault in the slightest I know I will judge if she goes back to him because as anyone knows who has lived with an abuser- it never stops.