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Small things that make you angry and you feel you can't mention elsewhere

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MalenkyRusskyDrakonchik · 11/06/2013 17:08

I was thinking that maybe we need one of those threads that reminds us we all have much more in common with each other, than any of us does with the misogynistic bigots. Smile

I don't know what the feministy equivalent of 'first world problem' is, but I bet there are loads of things you've been itching to point out annoy you, but don't start an AIBU about, or don't moan to your colleague/DH/mates about because it feels insignificant.

Maybe we can all have a good moan here - and maybe back each other up that these things typically aren't so small and insignificant really!

I will go first. I noticed the other day how, when I'm walking down a pavement, I automatically move to the side out of the way of busy men striding along with briefcases. Even when I'm busy. Confused Why do I do that? And how come I feel rude - and do get funny looks - when I don't do that?

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schooldidi · 24/06/2013 20:49

I can't believe your mum would say that ThirdTime Shock.

I didn't read the thread about not wanting people to touch toddler dd, but I'm glad nobody tried that sort of thing with dd2, she doesn't like being touched AT ALL, let alone by strangers. She goes into a massive, massive tantrum if somebody touches her without her permission, and I'm not discouraging that too much. I've spent a lot of time teaching her cousins that she's not a doll, plenty of repeating "dd2 is her own person, let her decide what she wants to do", I wouldn't want that ruined by strangers.

ThirdTimesABrokenFanjo · 24/06/2013 20:46

oh you may be right exasperated, I'll confirm with a man to be sure. Dh will be home soon

vintagecakeisstillnice · 24/06/2013 20:24
Grin
ExasperatedSigh · 24/06/2013 20:08

But I thought all the extra air that gets trapped in the expanded uterus helps to keep the plane aloft? And that's why women can't command submarines.

ThirdTimesABrokenFanjo · 24/06/2013 19:56

I'm pretty sure it's a fact that a uterus once expanded to contain a fetus renders a woman incapable of flying a plane.

So that's just science

kerala · 24/06/2013 19:54

Local radio did "mums fly a plane" section to much hilarity at the incompetence of women. Oh how I laughed. Really hoped a female pilot who happened to have DC would ring in but it didnt happen.

The grim rape encouraging lyrics on songs my DDs hum along to "you know you want it" etc. Grim.

DH and his friends put up some Christmas decorations at school. Took them an hour or so they took beer. That is all these men have done this year to help DH didnt think much of it. Yet they got a special mention by name in the heads blurb in the newsletter and much appreciation. There are mothers that spend HOURS at the school helping and dont get a mention. But because its fathers their time is perceived as more valuable. Just made me Hmm. Sorry rant over!

ThirdTimesABrokenFanjo · 24/06/2013 19:49

exasperated Grin exactly! I know they're fucking beautiful.. but don't touch them!

I've actually just reminded myself of something my mother said.

It's a good thing ds(1) is going to be so big and strong as dd (2) is so beautiful guys will be tryin to mess with her and harass her! Shock

thanks mother, thanks for that. Let's hope she always has her brother with her whenever she is alone with a boy Hmm to avoid all the rape that's going to happen "as she's so pretty"

ExasperatedSigh · 24/06/2013 19:37

Bleurgh. Not to stealth boast Grin but my DD is so cute that she has caused a ripple effect of oohs and aahs while toddling down the street on more than one occasion. That doesn't mean I want people touching her. I hate strangers invading my space, so does she.

ThirdTimesABrokenFanjo · 24/06/2013 19:30

Thread in chat where a poster doesn't want people to touch her 14 month old dd.

Loads of people teling her children are there to be touched Angry

Where do people think the idea that women are public property comes from? Confused

My daughter is blond, blue eyed petite, giggly smiley 20 month old and I love all the attention she gets because she is gorgeous and looks like an angelic angel

and that comment, christ.

TheDoctrineOfAllan · 24/06/2013 18:22

Very true Tei

superbagpuss · 24/06/2013 17:34

I went back to work today and the main question people asked who was looking after DC

when I said dh as he is a sahd there was surprise and questions if he would manage Hmm

TeiTetua · 24/06/2013 16:44

You only ever hear of a "career woman" but then again, you only ever hear of a "family man".

AmandaPandtheTantrumofDoom · 24/06/2013 13:17

ThirdTime - That may well be true in early visits, but DD2 is 2, so I don't think it's PND that they are looking out for! But also, fine they might want to see you on your own. I see that there are legitimate reasons for that. But if they are looking out for the welfare of the children primarily, shouldn't they be meeting every adult resident in the house - even if one at a time. It is the presumption that if you've seen the mother you're done that bothers me - the one time DH took DD1 to the health visitor clinic they asked to see me too the next time Hmm

ThirdTimesABrokenFanjo · 24/06/2013 13:08

Amanda I think hvs are there to keep an eye out for pnd and also dv, maybe they feel its easier to do with a woman in her own? could be wrong, but I think it possible there's a legitimate answer in your case for wanting to see you on your own

I was going through a bad depression years ago and dh about dragged me in to see a gp and then brought me in to the actual room with the doctor and sat down and the gp (politely) asked him to go.

he wanted to check with me about Dv, he was very good though and dh I both thought it wAs really good he did that

MalenkyRusskyDrakonchik · 24/06/2013 11:51

han, that's really shit. Angry

I can get in with the irritation about 'good around the house'. He's not actually brilliant. He's just not completely bone idle and entitled.

What narks me off the most is that if I go to visit my parents on my own, my mum always tells me to say thanks for them to DH for 'letting' them see me, and she always tells me to go home and 'look after your husband'. Hmm

Last I checked he is perfectly capable of looking after himself! I find it a really odd double standard that if he'd been away for a weekend and driven back, she'd think I ought to cook him a nice meal. But if I've been away for the weekend, she thinks I've had a nice break so I ought to cook the meal.

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ArtemisKelda · 24/06/2013 10:51

Blimey schooldidi, your GP is female and still treated you in that way! I saw a male nurse practictioner and put it down to gender issues.

UptoapointLordCopper · 24/06/2013 10:05
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UptoapointLordCopper · 24/06/2013 10:05

And there is a particular young woman who says I'm LUCKY that DH does the washing up. Angry Angry

UptoapointLordCopper · 24/06/2013 10:04

HanShotFirst Please complain. That gives me the rage. Stupid ignorant women who have the temerity of becoming mothers and not taking their responsibilities seriously and poisoning their children. I'll give them temerity. Angry Angry

AmandaPandtheTantrumofDoom · 24/06/2013 09:28

Depending on whether you can get away with it (e.g. I wouldn't say it to an elderly relative), a fairly good answer to "is he good around the house" is "Oh yes, t took a while but he doesn't pee on the rug or chew the furniture now".

Right, giving me the rage today. We have moved fairly recently. Letter from the Health Visitor wanting to come round and meet us. Addressed to parent/carer. I ring up and make an appointment. They are only worried about meeting me and the DCs. I have said that I have no concerns, so this visit is very much 'check you out and see if there are any issues we want to watch for'. Why is it that I am being examined, but they have no concerns about meeting DH?

TheDoctrineOfAllan · 24/06/2013 09:03

I never thought that about "career woman" before.

JacqueslePeacock · 24/06/2013 08:36

HanShotFirst, please complain about that. What an awful message to be giving children.

rosabud · 24/06/2013 00:44

Yes to the "is he good around the house?" enquiry - making grown man sound like pet poodle - and the follow up line......."so you have him well trained, then?"

AAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

schooldidi · 24/06/2013 00:05

I had that Artemis. When dd2 was just 6 months she had scabies, I took her to the gp and showed her the rash, explaining that the rest of the family were itchy too but dd2 was the worst. The gp had a quick glance, said it was excema and that the rest of us were coming out in sympathy. Dp took her back a few days later and the gp examined dd2 thoroughly and came to the correct diagnosis. Why didn't she examine the baby when I took her in?

ArtemisKelda · 24/06/2013 00:01

My DD has had a cold this week which has developed into an ear infection. I took her to the gp and felt dismissed as a neurotic mother. DH took her back the day after as her ear was still oozing gunk (I'd already pointed this out and was virtually ignored). He was taken seriously and her infection was finally diagnosed and she was prescribed antibiotics.

I'm absolutely furious that I was dismissed that way and that it took DH taking her to be taken seriously. I know when my own baby is unwell and I certainly know the difference between just a cold and something that needs a GP attention.

I'll stick to my own GP in future, she's fab.

DD is now on the mend thankfully.